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If you pm me your email I can send you copies. His son Georges are also on there.
Katie

Hi Katie

Im just down the road from Aldershot what a small world, is there any way i can get any more infomation of his Army details

Samantha

Hi
Yes its definitly the right one

Samantha

I have looked at the service records for George Chamley b Poona ( no middle name given ). He didn't leave the Army until 1879 and at that time he was based at Aldershot. He went to Bermuda in Dec 1873 and previous to that had been in Devonport in 1872. Are you sure that this is the George Chamley that Ellen married?

Ah right from the first marriage ok im now with you

The George c1864 is his son from 1871 & 1881.

Ozi

Ozi

The George Chamley you have listed for 1864 is wrong as mine on the death cert says he was 65 when he died in 1900 so he was born 1835 which matches with the one for Poona
I know this to be correct as his brothers daughter has left something to us in her will

Samantha

Thats right Frank Chamley married Charlotte Collins

Go on someone say ive got the wrong flipping family ahhhhhhhhhh

So if we cant find Ellen maybe we might find her through the daughter
Frances Edwina Warren Vicary or Chamley

Samantha

That ties in with this, Kucinta.

1911:
CHAMLEY GEORGE M 1864 47 Woolwich London - born Dorset
CHAMLEY ISABELLA F 1871 40 Woolwich London


Marriages Jun 1893
Chamley George Woolwich 1d 1776
Farr Isabella Sarah A Woolwich 1d 1776
Matley Frederick George Woolwich 1d 1776
Potter Amy Elizabeth K Woolwich 1d 1776


1901 England Census
Name: George Chamley
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Bella Chamley
Gender: Male
Where born: Weymouth, Dorset, England
Civil Parish: Plumstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 4 Park Rd

Occupation: Private Soldier

Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Plumstead East
Household Members:
Name Age
George Chamley 35
Bella Chamley 30
Amy Farr 15

So, your grandfather always called himself Chamley?

Marriages Jun 1907
CHAMLEY Frank Kensington 1a 288 <<<<<
CHARNLEY Frank Kennington 1a 288
COLLINS Charlotte Kensington 1a 288 <<<<<
FOX Edward Kensington 1a 288
WATERS Isabella Innis Kensington 1a 288

Births Dec 1908
CHAMLEY Muriel Sarah Marylebone 1a 488

Births Sep 1911
CHAMLEY Francis B Collins Marylebone 1a 925

Charlotte in 1911:

FARR, Walter Thomas Head Married M 30 1881 Labourer N O D Plumstead London .
FARR, Ellen Wife Married F 28 1883 Watford Herts
>>>CHAMLEY, Charlotte Boarder Widow F 62 1849 No Occupation Dorchestshire

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Address:
68 Earl St Plumstead London

Well that's certainly him then.

The bummer is finding Ellen.

As for your original question about names changing slightly. It happens all the time. Many reasons - don't like their given names, always known by a middle name, etc, etc, etc.

Ozi

Ozibird

Pensioner from Royal Engineers

And i do have him as being born Poona

Samantha

1901 England Census
Name: Charlotte Chamley
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Dorchester, Dorset, England
Civil Parish: Woolwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael and All Angels
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 8 St James Place

Condition as to marriage: wid

Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Woolwich
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Chamley 50

What was the occupation of George on his death cert? It could just be two different Georges, but unlikely. Poona seems to be a clincher.

Ozi

Ok so the 1st wife Charlotte died in 1912, George died in 1900 and Ellen Jane Chamley is on the death cert as his widow,

Ok now im really confused

Have you found a death for George's first wife before his 2nd marriage?
If he was still legally married then Ellen Jane's first marriage never happened so her subsequent marriage wasn't bigamous..

Hi Ozibird

This is them

No i havent found the other two

Samantha

Did you make the correction to this entry?

1881 England Census
Name: George Chumley [George Chamley]
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Charlotte Chumley
Gender: Male
Where born: Poona, East Indies
Civil Parish: Newington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 38 New Kent Road Palatinate
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Army Pensioner
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Trinity Newington
Household Members: Name Age
George Chumley 47
Charlotte Chumley 40 - wife; Dorchester, Dorset
George Chumley 16 - son; Messenger; Weymouth, Dorset
Charlotte Chumley 14 - daughter; Servant Domestic; Chatham


Marriages Sep 1863
Bussell Charlotte Weymouth 5a 552
CHAMLEY George Weymouth 5a 552
NEEDELL Sarah Eliza Weymouth 5a 552
TENNENT George Weymouth 5a 552

1871 England Census
Name: George Charnley
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Charlotte Charnley
Gender: Male
Where born: Bomlay Poms, Middlesex, England [This is a beauty! Image is East Indies, Bombay, Poona.]
Civil Parish: Alverstoke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Gosport
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: Military Clerk's Quarters, Weovil Lane [Not sure about 'Weovil'.]

Occupation: Military Staff Clerk, Royal Eng
Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub-registration district: Alverstoke
Household Members: Name Age
George Charnley 36
Charlotte Charnley 29
George Charnley 6
Charlotte Charnley 4

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Deaths Dec 1912
CHAMLEY Charlotte 69 Woolwich 1d 1310