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Trying to find a wedding/Maiden name

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Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 4 Jan 2011 21:17

1881
Name: Jane Johnson
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William Johnson
Gender: Female
Where born: Banks, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: North Meols
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Ralphs Wifes Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Johnson 23
Jane Johnson 23

Roy

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 4 Jan 2011 21:17

1881

about William Johnson
Name: William Johnson
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane Johnson
Gender: Male
Where born: Banks, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: North Meols
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Ralphs Wifes Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Farm Labourer

Registration district: Ormskirk
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Johnson 23
Jane Johnson 23

Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Jan 2011 21:17


Births Dec 1889 (>99%)

Johnson Isabella Ormskirk 8b 799

Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Jan 2011 21:11


1901

JOHNSON, William Head Married M 43 1858 Farmer
Banks
Lancashire VIEW
JOHNSON, Jane Wife Married F 43 1858
Banks
Lancashire VIEW
JOHNSON, William Son Single M 19 1882 Apprentice To Bricklayer
Banks
Lancashire VIEW
JOHNSON, Mary Daughter Single F 18 1883 Domestic Helper
Banks
Lancashire VIEW
JOHNSON, Jane Daughter Single F 16 1885 Apprentice To Dressmaker
Banks
Lancashire VIEW
JOHNSON, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 15 1886
Banks
Lancashire VIEW
JOHNSON, Margaret Daughter Single F 13 1888
Banks
Lancashire VIEW
JOHNSON, Isobella Daughter Single F 11 1890
Banks
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3541 Folio:
54 Page:
17

Registration District:
Ormskirk Sub District:
Tarleton Enumeration District:
4 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Tarleton

Civil Parish:
Tarleton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Gorse Lane, Tarleton County:
Lancashire

Joanne

Joanne Report 4 Jan 2011 21:06

Thank you Marion but I dont think it is as the bride and groom are wider apart in age, They were roughly the same age.

Thank you Roy, I'm all baffled because that would make sense but then why would he then be living with his parents in 1881 in the census? And if it isnt him in 1881 with the parents where is the family? I cant find records of any of the children's births.

I've just found another 2 children on the 1891 census:

Mary born 1883 and Jane born 1885 but I cant find either of them either?

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 4 Jan 2011 21:06

Is this him in 1881?

Name: William Johnson
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1859
Birthplace: North Meols, Lancashire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Marital Condition: Unknown
Profession / Occupation: Farmers Son
Address: Marshside Lane
Census Place: North Meols, Lancashire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
Family History Library Film: 1341896
The National Archives Reference: RG11
Piece / Folio: 3747 / 87
Page Number: 9
Household Gender Age
Parent William Johnson M 60
Parent Isabella Johnson F 58
William Johnson M 22
Thomas Johnson M 18

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 4 Jan 2011 21:04

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
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Johnson William Ormskirk 8b 1089
Rimmer Jane Ormskirk 8b 1089

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 4 Jan 2011 20:57

possible marriage

.........William Johnson 1880 Ormskirk Lancashire

........Jane Rimmer 1880 Ormskirk Lancashire

Peter Rimmer 1880 Ormskirk Lancashire

Dorothy Isabella Wignall 1880 Ormskirk Lancashire

Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Ormskirk
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 1089

North Meols was in registration district Ormskirk

you would need to back this up with the cert or a birth cert for one of their children

Roy

Joanne

Joanne Report 4 Jan 2011 20:36

I think i'm having one of those evenings where things are hiding from me on the searches.

I'm looking for the marriage of William Johnson and Jane (I dont know her maiden name) around 1881 in Lancashire. Also the births of their children.

I cant find hide nor hair of them. On the 1891 census they have a 9 year old child, and on the 1911 census it says married 30 years so I'm thinking that must be 1881. I also think i've found William living at home in 1881.

I've searched for the 4 children named on the 1911 census and the wedding but I just cant find them.

Nor can I find another family in 1891!

If anyone can help stop me going nuts and shouting at the leprechauns I think may well be now living in the search engines of geneaology sites the information I have is below

Thank you!


William Johnson born 1858 North Meols Lancashire
Jane Johnson born 1858 North Meols Lancashire
William Johnson born 1882 North Meols Lancashire
Elizabeth Johnson born 1886 North Meols Lancashire
Margaret Johnson born 1888 North Meols Lancashire
Isabella Johnson born 1890 Tarleton Lancashire

They were a farming family living in Gorse Lane in 1891 and 1911

My grandmother was always told William and Jane were both twins and lived on the same street in childhood?

Also I have George and Elizabeth Barron with their son George in 1901 but I cant find them in 1891.

George Barron 1859 Tarleton
Elizabeth Barron 1860 Tarleton
George Barron 1890 Tarleton

They were living at Bank Hall Lodge Bretherton in 1901

Anyone who can find this information I'd be really grateful, I'm totally having a 'failure' day today.