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I wonder if this could be Isabel's birth (as already posted by Shirley):-

Name: Isabella F Davis
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Epsom
County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 36A

I looked for births of any Davis in 1909 because this looks like her step or half sister's birth (with mother's maiden name given as Davis):-

Name: Charlotte Neal
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Davis
District: Epsom
County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 35

Kath. x

Any result yet on if Isabel had a middle name

Great call Mike, I will look into this. I know that her Uncle and aunt both lived and worked in the sanitorium in Frimley also known as Brompton. This was a place where they treated such cases as TB.I believe this was where Isobel was raised!

Wonder if this is The aunt and uncle



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Marriages Sep 1914

Bassett George B - Morris Chertsey 2a 122
Morris Isabel - Bassett Chertsey 2a 122

Thanks Mike,will use this to research the data of isobels step siblings. A change in detail. One of her step sister name Was LIZA and not Lisa as I stated before!

In case you don't have it

Marriages Dec 1935 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Collins Albert- Neal Surrey Mid.E. 2a 370
Neal Charlotte - Collins Surrey Mid.E. 2a 370

It looks as though there was is a strong reason to believe that tickner was not her born name. I have just found out she had 3 step siblings Charlotte and william Neal. And also Lisa, but I do not know here maiden name.However Her name now is Lisa Noon. Charlottes married name is collins. It looks as though the age of isobel marriage certificate was changed, as suggested by Kathleen post.. Acorrding to my resources Isobel mother died young and she was raised by her aunt and uncle, (her mothers sister) who I believe is called isabel and George Bassett.

Going back to the posts about age on the marriage certificate. Henry James Pratt was 30!

Hope this info helps. Thank you for all the help guys.I dont think we are to far off solving the mystery here :) Any further info will be great. I will keep digging through some of the details I have been given.

Isabel's born early 1909
Births Mar 1909

Hunt Isabel Dennis Epsom 2a 14

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Births Jun 1909

Clements Isabelle Frances Epsom 2a 37
DAVIS Isabella F Epsom 2a 36a

You are certainly right about that MarieCeleste. There was a 19 year age gap between my maternal grandparents. However on their marriage certificate it gives the impression there was only a gap of 11 years. She added 5 years to her age and he knocked 3 years off his!!!!

Kath. x

Just a thought Adam, how old were her husbands when she married?

Reason for asking is that the age given on a marriage certificate shouldn't be taken as gospel. I've come across a few cases where people have "adjusted" their ages on marriage certificates to close an age gap with their spouse.

Shirley you're right, I was just looking up the marriage for Tickner/Akeroyd after Janet posted a birth for Isabel Tickner with mother mn Akeroyd.

Clearly it's not the right family, but was just surprised that the 2 events were so far apart in the same year.

Have you come across a middle name for her

Is it possible that she was born illegitimate and registered with her mother's maiden name and then took on Harry Tickner's surname when her mother married/lived with Harry?

Kath. x

The register office and records office also seem to struggle to find any details aswell!!!!

Thats right Harry Tickner was her father. There are no records of her mother that I can find!

Mike .Isabel's father was Harry Tickner

Perhaps not.

Marriages Sep 1915
Fry Daisy A E Tichener Portsmouth 2b 1427
Tichener Harry O Fry Portsmouth 2b 1427 <<<<<<<<
Watts Alice M Wilson Portsmouth 2b 1427
Wilson Horace H E Watts Portsmouth 2b 1427

The marriage for the parents of the Isabel above is totally nowewhere near where Isabel was born


Marriages Mar 1912 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Akeroyd Emily - Tickner Whitby 9d 644
Tickner Frederick - Akeroyd Whitby 9d 644

What about this?

1911:
TICHENER HARRY OLIVER M 1878 33 Epsom Surrey

Have you tried the register office or records office in Surrey in case the birth was missed off the copy sent to the GRO?

Kath. x