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i as having conversation in county records office and she suggested that mac

You say Thomas was only able to afford to look after kids of his own - do you know that he had children? Have you found him on any records apart from the marriage?

on the census it is axford

in 1891 her name is BESSIE OXFORD not axford

Bessie Oxford
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Wales

Civil Parish: Steynton
Ecclesiastical parish: Steynton
Town: Milford Haven
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Haverfordwest
Sub-registration district: Milford
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John W Lane 53 <<<< doctor and surgeon
Matilda Lane 53
Mabel Lane 25
Viathlem Lane 16
Roovia Lane 50
George Lane 6
Edith Lane 4
Jane Lennox 50
Bessie Oxford 17 <<<<<<<<<<

my grandfer not great grandfer

yes mac they were in the workhouse my grandfer is william, ernest was adopted out at age of 5 to a davies family in haverfordwest, grandfer stayed till he was old enough to work, sad really, they knew their family ernest when he was killed in 1917 during the war, he left his prize money to his grandfather and adopted mother.

mac she di3d in the april on 15 april 1900

first child my g grandfer WILLIAM HENRY AXFORD 1893
CHARLES ERNEST AXFORD born 1896-1897
and ERNEST AXFORD born 1898

elizabeth died at the old pier toll house the place was just below her employer were she worked before marriage unless she was still working there she was known as BESSIE

1901 her surviving children:
Ernest Axford
Relation to Head of Family Pauper
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 3
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Milford Pembrokeshire

Also in same establishment William (8)

do you have an address on either the marriage or death cert please

So she died the day after the wedding? No wonder we haven't found her 1901/11,

added: sorry, read the month wrong.

Ah, I wont find them in the 1901 then lol

sorry not ignorig you got to put straw under the cattle be 10 mins

no child alive for them they married in 1900 and elizabeth died while 8 months pregnant in april 15th 1900 she had 3 children out of wedlock one died as a baby her two sons went to the workhouse the following winter i think because elizabeths mam died in 1898 one sister had a family and the other moved to gibralter with her husband with the army. so i wud presume thomas cud only afford to look aafter kids of his own, because in those times a man would not take on another mans children without the mother

Can't find them either, nor a birth England/Wales or on IGI for him.

I can't see them 1901 or 1911. Did they have a child between those dates do you know?
Jan

nothing on thomas howden roberts for 1863 on free bmd

yes marion she was born 23rd may 1874

Elizabeth birth ???
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

about Elizabeth Amelia Axford
Name: Elizabeth Amelia Axford
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Haverfordwest
County: Dyfed, Pembrokeshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 963 (click to see others on page)

i have all relative census on Elizabeth just cant find thomas

no shirley because i dont know were he came from hun,

mac her dad was WILLIAM SAMUEL KINGWELL AXFORD from middlesex born 1843

she was born in milford haven her age is 25 at marriage and thomas's is 37

thank you