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Glad to have been of help..

Kucinta

It was a pleasure, and fun to do.

Ozi

I would like to thank Ozibird and Kucinta for all your help. My wife was over the moon with all the information you found for her family, She's going to update her tree tonight.

Once again Many thanks

Marriage for David and Eliza Grace:

Name: David Jenkins
Spouse Name: Eliza Grace Riley
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 18 Jun 1832
Parish: St Luke, Old Street
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington

Census 1841:

Name: Alfred Jenkins
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Mary Islington East
Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East

Household Members: Name Age

David Jenkins 30 c1811 Middlesex, England.Tinman
Eliza Jenkins 25 c1816 Middlesex, England.
Alfred Jenkins 8
David Jenkins 5
John Jenkins 2

Baptism of Alfred?

Name: Alfred Richard Jenkins
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1833
Baptism Date: 28 Aug 1833
Father's name: David Jenkins
Mother's name: Eliza Grace Jenkins
Parish or Poor Law Union: City of London Lying-In Hospital, City Road, Finsbury
Borough: Islington

Father David a Tinman. Abode: Islington.

More on the marriage Ozi found:

Name: Alfred Jenkins - marine store dealer
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Emily Ball
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 16 Apr 1855
Parish: St Matthew, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: David Jenkins - tin plate worker
Spouse Father Name: William Ball - brick layer

Witnesses: John Jenkins Esther Ball.
Groom: 12 Marpe St.
Bride 6 Marpe St

(may be Mape St)

Marriages Jun 1855
BAKER Sophia Bethnal G 1c 540
BALL Emily Bethnal G 1c 540
DRAPER Walter Bethnal G. 1c 540
JENKINS Alfred Bethnal G 1c 540

1871 England Census
Name: Esther Jenkins
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Alfred Jenkins
Mother's name: Emily Jenkins
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Islington St Michael
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 12 Strouds Vale

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Jenkins 38 - Shop Porter
Emily Jenkins 39
Francis Jenkins 11
Emily Jenkins 6
Esther Jenkins 3
Louisa Jenkins 10 Months



1861 England Census
Name: Alfred Jenkins
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily Jenkins
Gender: Male
Where born: St Lukes, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: Regent Square
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 18 Crown St

Occupation: Porter to a Marine Store Dealer

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Grays Inn Lane
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Jenkins 27
Emily Jenkins 25 - Islington
Alfred Jenkins 4
Francis Jenkins 1

1861:On the same page, at No. 17 are:
Charles J Jenkins Ann abt 1836 London, England Head St Pancras, Middlesex - labourer to a Marine Store Dealer
Ann Jenkins Charles J abt 1832 London, England Wife St Pancras, Middlesex - laundress

Just to recap, it is Elizabeth Ellis, father Joseph, mother Esther who is your/wife's ancestor. Is that correct? So really Sarah is irrelevant to your line. You have Joseph & Esther's marriage cert. Who is her father, and his occupation?

Ozi

Does this add up?

1881 England Census
Name: Esther Jenkins
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Alfred Jenkins
Mother's name: Emily Jenkins
Gender: Female
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Marys Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 8 Albert Ter York Rd

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Jenkins 47 - Paper Sorter; London
Emily Jenkins 49 - London
Alfred Jenkins 24
Frances Jenkins 21
Esther Jenkins 13
Emma Jenkins 10

Hi,

I can't thank you all enough, you are all so helpful and have cleared up so many questions for me. The only thing to do now is to find out when Sarah died.

Thank you all again

Yes, if [Sarah] died as an inmate in an asylum there would still be a dc, and it would be indexed in the usual way.

This doesn't really give us any more info.

1851 England Census
Name: Charles Turvey
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Turvey
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Hackney, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 15 Popham St

Occupation: Brickmaker

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Turvey 27
Sarah Turvey 25
Mary Turvey 7 - Battle Bridge
Charles Turvey 5 - recorded as "daugh"; Chelsea
Harriet Turvey 2 - Battle Bridge

Baptism of Sarah's brother William:

Name: William Tuvey
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1852
Baptism Date: 14 May 1852
Father's name: Charles Tuvey
Mother's name: Sarah Tuvey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney St John
Borough: Hackney

Father Charles is a BRICKMAKER, and address is WORKHOUSE.

Brother Charles baptised same day:

Name: Charles James Tuvey
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1852
Baptism Date: 14 May 1852
Father's name: Charles Tuvey
Mother's name: Sarah Tuvey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney St John
Borough: Hackney

Name: Robert Tuvey
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1858
Baptism Date: 30 Apr 1858
Father's name: Charles Tuvey
Mother's name: Sarah Tuvey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney St John
Borough: Hackney

Address: workhouse. Father Charles a labourer.

Possible baptism?

Name: Sarah Louisa Tuvey
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1856
Baptism Date: 21 Nov 1856
Father's name: Charles Tuvey
Mother's name: Sarah Tuvey
Parish or Poor Law Union: Homerton St Barnabas
Borough: Hackney

Address: Homerton. Father's occupation: Bricklayer

Hi, that's great, the 1871 Census is bringing it all together now.

I'm still not sure if the entry for Sara Ellis in 1901 as an inmate in Dartford is her. Everything leads to her - and the only DC I have been able to find for Sarah Ellis is in 1898. If she died as an inmate would a DC still be registered?

Thank you

The witnesses at Sarah Tuvey's wedding were William Tuvey and Mary Ann Tuvey, which could tie in with William aged 9, and possibly Mary aged 17 on Ozi's census 1861 post above.

1861 England Census
Name: Sarah Tuvey
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Charles Tuvey
Mother's name: Sarah Tuvey
Gender: Female
Where born: Islington, Berkshire, England [Berks has been crossed out but could've been done by the collator. However someone's telling porkies, somewhere along the line.]
Civil Parish: Norwood
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Southall
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: Brickfields <<<<<<<<<

Registration district: Uxbridge
Sub-registration district: Hayes
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Tuvey 39 - labourer [brick maker in the brick fields?]; Hackney
Sarah Tuvey 38 - Hackney
Mary Tuvey 17
Harriett Tuvey 12
William Tuvey 9
Sarah Tuvey 7
Robert Tuvey 3
John Tuvey 3 MO
William Brown 42
William Jackson 30
Thomas Norman 29

If you don't have a certain death date for Frederick's first wife Sarah, who according to your other thread may have been in an asylum in 1901, then Frederick may not have been free to marry anyone, as he was still married to Sarah.

Marriage of Frederick to Sarah? (on other thread)

Name: Frederick Ellis - COAL PORTER
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Spouse Name: Sarah Tuvey
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 22 Sep 1873
Parish: Christ Church, Somers Town
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
>>>>Father Name: James Ellis - COAL PORTER
Spouse Father Name: Charles Tuvey- BRICK MAKER


Note father is named James, as per Ozi's family in census 1871.