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So here's Ernest in 1881 with his remarried mother:

Name: E.E. Grimes
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Step Son
Mother's name: Emma Elleoch
Where born: Australia

Civil Parish: Birmingham

John Elleoch 42
Emma Elleoch 39
John Harry Elleoch 5
E.E. Grimes 18


and here's the heretofore unknown Emeline!

Name: Emma Grimes
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Granddaughter
Where born: Australia
Occupation: Flowerer Machinist (Shoe)

Civil Parish: Leicester St Mary
County/Island: Leicestershire
Street address: 10 Napier Street

Elizabeth Simpson 70
Emma Grimes 16
William Adams 12

Hi Glenys,

Births of children

Surname: Grimes
Name: Frederick George
Event: Birth
Fathers Name: John
Mothers Name: Emma Sculthorpe
Birthplace: Win[dsor]
Yr: 1860
Reg No: 1440

Surname: Grimes
Name: Ernest Edward
Event: Birth
Fathers Name: John
Mothers Name: Emma Sculthorpe
Birthplace: Ball[arat]
Yr: 1863
Reg No: 341

Surname: Grimes
Name: Emeline
Event: Birth
Fathers Name: John
Mothers Name: Emma Sculthorpe
Birthplace: Melbourne
Yr: 1864
Reg No: 24983

???????Probably have this, family returning to England

Family Name Name Age Ship Departure Month Dep Yr Destination

Grimes E 3 Champion of the Seas Jan 1866 London
Grimes infant with 1 Champion of the Seas Jan 1866 London
Grimes Emma 30 Champion of the Seas Jan 1866 London
Grimes Fredk 6 Champion of the Seas Jan 1866 London

Thank you for all help
The census for 1871 Birmingham and marriage in Leicester are correct for my family.
Emma's maiden name was Sculthoupe.
Thanks for Victoria indexes - I shall look again!
Glenys

Searching the Victoria indexes, I get one result for Ernest Grimes child of John and Emma born 1861-1865 -- but I'm not going to pay to see it! It seems they may also have had another child during that period.

There doesn't seem to be a death for John -- but then, perhaps he hadn't died when Emma left Australia, and "widow" was not completely accurate.

There are 3 John Grimes deaths in Victoria 1881-1891, for instance.

Just to try to help move this along a bit:


1871

Name: Ernest E Grimes
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Emma Grimes
Where born: Battersea, Austria
[Australia]

Name: Emma Grimes
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire

Emma Grimes 31
Ernest E Grimes 8


If you subscribe to Ancestry -- do you know the user there who has corrected Ernest's place of birth? If not, you can contact that person through the Ancestry system.


Presumably: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Marriages Mar 1859
Grimes John Leicester 7a 261
Sculthorpe Emma Leicester 7a 261

any idea where and when she was born and is Grimes her maiden name?

Thought I'd give all info. if anyone could help.
Emma Grimes sailed to Australia in June 1859 with her husband John aboard Scottish Chief.
She returned to England Jan.1866 with her son Ernest aged 3.
On 1871 census in Birmingham she is a widow and Ernest's place of birth is Ballarat.
I am therefore searching for Ernest's birth and John's death. I have tried Victria Online records with no luck.
Glenys

well to get any help you ned to give a name for starters, relevant dates and anything else you know

Help to find the death record of my Gt.Gt.Grandmother's first husband and the birth record of her son - in Ballarat Australia.
Glenys