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And the link to William Bennion is?

Thanks

I dont see why you need to know the line up to Robert. All i want to know is if he was a mayor or councillor of somesort. Thank you for the help flick im sorry i got some of the facts wrong, you dont need to help if its such a bother to you!
Ok so the facts are Robert Allmand born 1788 Clutton to John Allman and Rachel Rowcraft. Robert married Susanna Lee in 1818, they had 3 children that i know of John 1819 Martha 1822 and Robert 1822.
Susanna died in 1824 and Robert married Mary Roberts in 1826.

Robert was listed as a wheelwright and a publican. A relative (now deceased) claims he was a publican, timber merchant and the mayor of wrexham

Unless Tom comes up with a proper set of facts, detailing the line from Bennion to Allmand, I don't propose to spend any further time on this

The age in 1851 is actually 62...........not as transcribed

Have advised Ancestry of their error

LK

The first wife died in 1824..................allegedly

if he died 1829 then these are not him either. they may be wheelwright and puplicann but they certainly do not fit.

you say you have got to him through william bennion but you have not given us any details. to work with. you may have the information but we do not.

1841 census transcription details for: Halghton Lane Mill Stone, Hanmer, Halghton
ALLMAN, Robert M 50 1791 Occ:Wheelwright and Publican
ALLMAN, Mary F 45 1796
ALLMAN, Thomas M 10 1831 Flintshire
ALLMAN, Mary F 9 1832 Flintshire

1851 for the man who married Mary Roberts
Name: Robert Almand
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann Almand
Gender: Male
Where born: Clutton, Cheshire, England
Robert Almand 42 *************Occ: Wheelwright
Mary Ann Almand 54
Thomas Almand 21
Mary Almand 19

where was william born?

Sorry, how did William Bennion fit in?
Births Jun 1849
BENNION William Fawcett Nantwich 19 210
BENNION William Fawcett Nantwich 19 21_
Births Sep 1849
BENNION William Nantwich 19 152

So if he died 1824 he cannot have been mayor of wrexham. perhaps it was another family member?

Flick, sorry i gave you the wrong death date, it was 1824, so it does fit. in records he has been down as a Wheelwright and publican. Family say he was a timbermerchant, publican and the mayor of wrexham.
To find him i asked relatives who got me back to William Bennion 1849 - his grandson and i used census returns and BMD certificates to get back to Robert.
I appreciate the help, Tom

I guess this is the 1841 (ages rounded):
1841 census transcription details for: Halghton Lane Mill Stone, Hanmer, Halghton

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1408 Book/Folio: 5/7 Page: 9


Reg. District: Ellesmere Sub District: Hanmer
Parish: Hanmer Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Halghton Lane Mill Stone, Hanmer, Halghton
County: Flintshire

ALLMAN, Robert M 50 1791 Occ:Wheelwright and Publican
ALLMAN, Mary F 45 1796
ALLMAN, Thomas M 10 1831 Flintshire
ALLMAN, Mary F 9 1832 Flintshire

Maureen

If the FIRST wife died in 1829, he couldn't marry in 1826.

PLEASE....if you really want help....tell us how you got BACK to this man.........

You say the occupation is the 'same'.......the same as what?

You orignally allege that he was a timber merchant and publican...both of which are far-removed from wheelwright

Some serious sorting out seems to be necessary....................

Ive just looked it up and he was born in 1789, which fits!

The census return i havent been able to find! This is very helpful, as i wasnt sure of his second marriage, but the occupation is the same. Although his first marriage was in 1818, so he couldnt hav been born in 1809.......

1851 for the man who married Mary Roberts

Name: Robert Almand
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann Almand
Gender: Male
Where born: Clutton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish or Township: Halghton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Asaph
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Ellesmere
Sub-registration district: Overton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Almand 42 *************Occ: Wheelwright
Mary Ann Almand 54
Thomas Almand 21
Mary Almand 19

If you wish to have further help, please answer the quesions posed

Name: Robert Alman
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Date:
Christening Date:
Marriage Date: 07 Feb 1826
Banns Date:
Death Date:
Burial Date:
Event Date:
Birthplace: of this parish & township of Wigland
Christening Place:
Marriage Place: Malpas, Cheshire, England
Banns Place:
Death Place:
Burial Place:
Event Place:
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Principal's Marital Status:
Principal's Residence: , Malpas, Cheshire, England
Spouse's Name: Mary Roberts
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Residence: , Malpas, Cheshire, England
Spouse's Father:
Spouse's Mother:
Age:
Image Number: 173
Digital Folder Number: 4011811
Film Number: 1538147
Collection: England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900


Can't be the same man.........IF your info about 'first' wife's death is accurate

Is this where you get your idea that Robert may have married Mary Roberts?

Name: Robert Almond
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Jun 1834
Baptism/Christening Place: INDEPENDENT,MALPAS,CHESHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1834
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Robt. Almond
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Roberts
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07668-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 20048
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


FULL Batch info.......................................

Almond, British Isles
Father: Robert , Mother: Mary
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C076681

1. THOMAS ALMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 JUL 1830 Independent, Malpas, Cheshire, England DOB 7 Feb 1830

2. ROBERT ALMOND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 28 JUN 1834 Independent, Malpas, Cheshire, England DOB 25 Feb 1834

3. MARY ALMOND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 JUN 1834 Independent, Malpas, Cheshire, England DOB 23 Dec 1831

4. RACHEL ALMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 JUL 1828 Independent, Malpas, Cheshire, England DOB 22 Mar 1828

5. ELIZABETH ALMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 21 JAN 1827 Independent, Malpas, Cheshire, England DOB 10 Nov 1826

Tom

How did you get back to him?

Where does he fit into your family tree?

His first wife was called Susanna Lee. She died in 1829. I am unsure of this but i belive he remarried to a Mary Roberts.

Possible death:
Deaths Sep 1859
ALLMAND Robert Wrexham 11b 214

Tom?