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help finding Benjamin proctor

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Feb 2018 16:46

Unfortunately Carole had deleted her account. There’s no obvious way of contacting her via GR :-(

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Feb 2018 22:12

Welcome to the boards, Gill.

Unfortunately you have replied to an old thread (2011), and Carole won't be looking here for replies now.

You can try contacting her by sending a private message (just click on her name at the top of her post.)
If she has kept her email address updated with GR, they will send her an email to tell her there's a message from you in the system.

She may (or may not) then be able to read it, and reply.

Good luck!

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Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

Gill

Gill Report 16 Feb 2018 18:47

Hi,
My Dad’s great grand father was Abel Green and his grand mother was Lizette. He had an uncle Ben the brother of his mother , who was Amy.
So maybe I am related to your husband.
Gill

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 Jan 2011 01:24

pm received

"Thank you for your information,we found out that was what happened Benjamin was named Benjamin Mellor Proctor "

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My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 29 Jan 2011 23:21

from cheshirebmd.org.uk shoing Lizette as both Green and mellor

Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1887
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PROCTOR * Hugh GREEN Lizette Biddulph Moor, Christ Church Newcastle-Under-Lyme 5C/1/132
PROCTOR * Hugh MELLOR Lizette Biddulph Moor, Christ Church Newcastle-Under-Lyme 5C/1/132

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tempest

tempest Report 29 Jan 2011 20:06

pm received

"Thank you for your information,this was my husbands family,most use full.thanks again carole."

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desperately seeking great grandmothers

tempest

tempest Report 27 Jan 2011 00:26

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Benjamin Proctor Name: Benjamin Proctor
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Leek
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 344



England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Benjamin Proctor Name: Benjamin Proctor
Birth Date: 25 Jan 1904
Death Registration Month/Year: 1976
Registration district: Staffordshire Moorlands
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 30
Page: 1214

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Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 27 Jan 2011 00:09

Nevertheless I think you need to buy Benjamin's birth cert to clarify matters !

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 27 Jan 2011 00:08

so she was Mary's child before she married Abel.


I coudn't find a marriage for Lizette, and wondered if that was the case.




sylvia

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My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 27 Jan 2011 00:06

Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)

Green Abel Congleton 8a 341
MELLOR Mary Congleton 8a 341

so she was born Mellor. mother married later

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 26 Jan 2011 23:51

and Lizette must have been married before??


she's on the 1881 census as Lizette Green, but she married Hugh Proctor as Mellor




sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 26 Jan 2011 23:47

don't forget, the child of a married woman was considered to be the son of her husband, even if he was dead.


I think the longest interval that I have seen between death of husband and birth of a child with his surname was 10 years!



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

tempest

tempest Report 26 Jan 2011 23:45

Lizette's hubby not Benjamin!

1891 census - household transcription
Person: PROCTOR, Hugh
Address: 32, Albert Street, Barnsley
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

PROCTOR, Hugh Head Married M 24 1867 Coal Miner Horton Staffordshire
PROCTOR, Lisette Wife Married F 23 1868 Biddulph Staffordshire
PROCTOR, Hugh Son M 3 1888 Barnsley Yorkshire
PROCTOR, Ellen Daughter F 0 (1M) 1891 Barnsley Yorkshire

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Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 26 Jan 2011 23:44

So maybe not son of Lizette ?

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KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 26 Jan 2011 23:43

This is the nearest death I can find:-

Name: Hugh Proctor
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 28
District: Barnsley
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 138

However this would mean that Hugh was not Benjamin's father. I think you will need Benjamin's birth certificate to see if a father is named on it. He could have been illegitimate.

Kath. x

tempest

tempest Report 26 Jan 2011 23:40

Lizette was a widow by 1901

1901 census
Address: Biddulph Moor, Biddulph

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

GREEN, Abel Head Married M 74 1827 Earthenware Dealer Biddulph Staffordshire
GREEN, Mary Wife Married F 70 1831 Biddulph Staffordshire
PROCTOR, Lizette Daughter Widow F 32 1869 Biddulph Staffordshire
PROCTOR, Hugh Grand Son Single M 13 1888 Manchester Lancashire
PROCTOR, Mary E Grand Daughter F 10 1891 Barnsley Yorkshire
PROCTOR, Thomas Grand Son M 9 1892 Barnsley Yorkshire
PROCTOR, Amy Grand Daughter F 5 1896 Biddulph Staffordshire

Researching:
desperately seeking great grandmothers

Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 26 Jan 2011 23:39

Marriages Mar 1887 (>99%)

Mellor Lizette Congleton 8a 352
PROCTOR Hugh Congleton 8a 352

Researching:
For better results please give all the details ,name, date place as you can {pictures by me }

Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 26 Jan 2011 23:36

ame Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image
GREEN, Abel Head Married M 84 1827 Retired Farmer And Earthenware Dealer Biddulph Moor Staffordshire VIEW
GREEN, Mary Wife Married
30 years F 80 1831 Biddulph Moor Staffe VIEW
PROCTOR, Lizette Daughter Widow F 43 1868 Biddulph Moor Staffe VIEW
PROCTOR, Hugh Grandson Single M 23 1888 Coal Miner Hewer Manchester Lancashire VIEW
PROCTOR, Mary Ellen Grd Daughter Single F 20 1891 Fustian Fctory Barnsley Yorke VIEW
PROCTOR, Thomas Grandson Single M 18 1893 Coal Miner Waggoner Under Ground Barnsley Yorke VIEW
PROCTOR, Amy Granddaughter Single F 15 1896 Fustian Factory Biddulph Moor Staffe VIEW
PROCTOR, Benjamin Grandson M 7 1904 Biddulph Staffe VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16629 Reference:
RG14PN16629 RG78PN1028 RD362 SD2 ED3 SN102

Registration District:
Leek Sub District:
Biddulph Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Biddulph

Address:
Biddulph Moor Congleton

Researching:
For better results please give all the details ,name, date place as you can {pictures by me }

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 26 Jan 2011 23:36

Where were they from? There is this Benjamin born 1904 - his mother is a widow so his father must have died:-

GREEN, Abel Head Married M 84 1827 Retired Farmer And Earthenware Dealer Biddulph Moor Staffordshire

GREEN, Mary Wife Married 30 years F 80 1831 Biddulph Moor Staffe

PROCTOR, Lizette Daughter Widow F 43 1868 Biddulph Moor Staffe <<<<<<<<<<<<<<

PROCTOR, Hugh Grandson Single M 23 1888 Coal Miner Hewer Manchester Lancashire

PROCTOR, Mary Ellen Grd Daughter Single F 20 1891 Fustian Fctory Barnsley Yorke

PROCTOR, Thomas Grandson Single M 18 1893 Coal Miner Waggoner Under Ground Barnsley Yorke

PROCTOR, Amy Granddaughter Single F 15 1896 Fustian Factory Biddulph Moor Staffe

PROCTOR, Benjamin Grandson M 7 1904 Biddulph Staffe<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Address:
Biddulph Moor Congleton

Reference:
RG14PN16629 RG78PN1028 RD362 SD2 ED3 SN102

Kath. x

Carole

Carole Report 26 Jan 2011 23:29

Could anyone help please i have been trying to find my husbands grandfathers censors 1911,do not seem to trace him.His son Benjamin was born 1904 would be glad of any help,thanks. carole