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Thanks again for all your help!! Maura & Eringobragh1916 xx

Shazzlou, there's a John Byrne living at 6.1 McClanes Lane 1901could be Ellen brother

Residents of a house 6.1 in McClanes Lane (Merchants Quay, Dublin)
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Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Byrne John 31 Male Head of Family Catholic City Dublin Baker Read and write - Married -
McDonnell Elizabeth 30 Female Sister Catholic City Dublin Carriage Trioner Read and write - Not Married -
Byrne John Male Son Catholic City Dublin - Cannot read - - -
Byrne Teresa 26 Female Wife Catholic City Dublin - Read and write

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The birth certificate arrived but no address recorded on it.
This is a puzzle as 1911 census Ellen/ Penelope Lewis living 43 Herbert st Wolverhampton gave her birthplace as oylegate co Wexford but no birth record found apart from one in 1860 listing an Ellen Byrne father named Peter and mother Margaret but her fathers name on marriage certificate in 1891 Curragh Camp Ireland was MIchael Byrne occupation labourer.
On her first marriage to a Henry Jackson May 1882 her father was listed as Nicholas Byrne labourer and on his death in 1886 Bridget Byrne (her sister) was present at death. I believe from certifictaes 6 Mclanes Lane was Byrnes family home as listed on certificates. I believe the birth certificate i have recieved is correct family as right area but Michael is listed as farmer not labourer. opinions & advice needed, why would shesay she was born Wexford and not Newbridge??

I have ordered Ellen Byrne birth certificate & im hoping it may say born 6 Mc clane Lane on it! Looked at 1901 census & Alice a widow living with daughter Mary who is unmarried! Really think this is right family. Thanks for all the help! x

Its a shame fathers names are not on marriage record, i suppose this means that with a name like Michael Byrnes his baptismal record will be impossible to trace?

Thanks Erin, thought that but wasn't sure

Spot on Maura...Alicia would be what was in the Baptismal Record....
Yes I remember well Penelope !!!!

It's a possibility, unfortunitely it does'nt look as if the father's name's are on the marriage record, but that far back father's names were'nt on them. Alice was more than likely her name and got Ally for short, I not 100% sure but Alicia could be the latin spelling of Alice, as R.C. records would have been mostly written in Latin back then.

Seems Ellen was like her mother and liked changing sound of first name! Alice, Ally & Alicia!!

Do you think it could be the same one?

Shazzlou there's a birth for a Alicia surname spelt Deevy 1826 Rahan co Offaly father's a John on the same site. Newbridge in Co Kildare is in the barony of Offaly east.

Thanks for this information Maura it has taken me 6 years to find the right family and i think i finally have. You may have seen my posts on here and my gt grandmother Ellen Byrne used variants of her first name such as Penelope & Penella and its made research really hard. I think Alice & Michael are her parents. Thanks for your help xx

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Baptisms Newbridge R.C. Co Kildare
Anastasia 1852 mother Alice Devoy
James 1853 mother Ally Devoy
Anne 1854 mother Alicia Devoy
John 1858 mother Ally Devoy
Laurence 1863 mother Alicia Devoy
Ellen 1865 mother Alice Devoy
Mary 1866 motehr Alicia Devoy
Brigid 1868 mother Alicia Devoy
Alice 1871 mother Alice Devoy

Im not subscribed to that and i only know of Alice, Bridget, Ellen & Anastacia. I dont suppose you could give me the details of the others if possible? Thanks Sharon x

http://kildare.rootsireland.ie/

There's a marriage for 1848 Newbridge for a Michael Byrne & a Ally Devoy.

There's also 9 baptism for children of Michael Byrne's & Ally/Alice/Alicia Devoy

Im looking to trace the marriage of a Alice Devoy & Michael Byrne in Ireland and it probably took place in Kildare. They were both roman carholic & had children Anastacia born 6th Feb 1852,Bridget born 15th April 1868, Alice born 4th Jan 1871 & Ellen born 30 Dec 1864.

Can anyone help? Thanks x