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Marriages Sep 1853 (>99%)
WALDER James Cuckfield 2b 183
WHEELER Elizabeth Cuckfield 2b 183

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Barn Cottages, 1, Beddington, Croydon, Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Edward Walder Head Married Male 32 1869 Bolney, Sussex, England Carter On Farm Transcription
Alice Walder Wife Married Female 26 1875 Bolney, Sussex, England - Transcription
James E Walder Son - Male 2 1899 Surrey, England - Transcription
William H Pullen Boarder Single Male 23 1878 Petworth, Sussex, England Carter On Farm Transcription
William Rixon Boarder Single Male 23 1878 Beaulieu, Hampshire, England Ordinary Agricull Labourer


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Vyes Hill, Bolney Place, Bolney, Cuckfield, Sussex, England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Walder Head Married Male 74 1817 Sussex, England - Transcription
Elizabeth Walder Wife Married Female 59 1832 Sussex, England - Transcription
James Walder Son Single Male 33 1858 Sussex, England Agricultural Labourer Transcription
Edward Walder Son Single Male 21 1870 Sussex, England Agricultural Labourer


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Nyes Hill, Bolney, Cuckfield, Sussex, England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Walder Head Married Male 64 1817 Bolney, Sussex, England Ag Lab Transcription
Elizabeth Walder Wife Married Female 49 1832 Shermanbury, Sussex, England - Transcription
James Walder Son Single Male 23 1858 Bolney, Sussex, England Ag Lab Transcription
Ellen Walder Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Bolney, Sussex, England - Transcription
Edward Walder Son Single Male 11 1870 Bolney, Sussex, England Ag Lab


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Sproukets Wood (Cottage), Bolney, Cuckfield, Sussex, England
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Birth place First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation
Sussex, England James Walder Head - Male 54 1817 - Transcription
Sussex, England Elizabeth Walder Wife - Female 38 1833 - Transcription
Sussex, England James Walder Son - Male 13 1858 - Transcription
Sussex, England Kate Walder Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Transcription
Sussex, England Ellen Walder Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Transcription
Sussex, England Edward Walder Son - Male 1 1870


WALDER, EDWARD WHEELER
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in CUCKFIELD UNION Volume 02B Page 138

First name(s) George Ernest
Last name Walder
Age 18
Birth year 1903
Birth place Croydon
Attestation year 1921
Service number 1051934
Former service number -
Record set Royal Artillery Attestations 1883-1942

WALDER, GEORGE ERNEST BARNETT Order
GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 325

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ledgers Cott Brill Lave Chelsaw Surrey, Chelsham, Surrey, England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Edward Walder Head Married Male 41 1870 Bolney Sussex Caster On Gentleman Farm Transcription
Alice Emily Walder Wife Married Female 35 1876 Bolney Sussex - Transcription
James Edward Walder Son - Male 12 1899 Beddington Surrey School Transcription
George Earnest Walder Son - Male 8 1903 Beddington Surrey School Transcription
Alice Elizabeth Walder Daughter - Female 6 1905 Beddington Surrey School Transcription
John Walder Son - Male 4 1907 Wickham Kent - Transcription
Margaret Ellen Walder Daughter - Female 1 1910 Chelsam Surrey



Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)
Barnett Alice Emery Cuckfield 2b 239
Barnett Alice Emily Cuckfield 2b 239
WALDER Edward Cuckfield 2b 239

Name: Edward R Walder
Year: 1950
Residence Place: Eastern, England
Place of Abode: 60 GRESHAM AVENUE, WARLINGHAM
Reference Number: CC802/61/4

At the same address are Ivy Walder and George E Walder

In 1952, Edward and Ivy were still together, at No 12, Cranmer Close

So he certainly wasn't a WW2 casualty

???????

Walder Edward R 1925 1964 1964 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

Looks like Heather had a sister born in 1950 - record on freebmd

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

This may prove of interest

1939

Walder Household (4 People)
School House Westhall Road , Caterham and Warlingham U.D., Surrey, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
George E Walder 08 Sep 1902 Male School Porter Married 242 1
Annie M K Walder 16 Jun 1905 Female School Porter Married 242 2
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Andrew E Walder 07 Jul 1928 Male At School Single 242 4


Andrew's birth month is incorrectly transcribed - I have sent through a correction

Hi Maureen

That's ok ,glad the records found turned out to be correct ones

:-D

I'm not sure whether I thanked you for all your help. You were correct with Andrew. My sincere apologies for the x number of years delay thanking you.
Life events intervened..Many thanks.

Thankyou so much. I think you have definitely found the family. I didn't realise the boys were born in Scotland. I plan to go to Register House tomorrow and will look for them.

I am amazed at the information you have found.
Once again, thank you so much. I look foward to hearing any more info you can find.

Kind regards
Maureen

Two possible children for Andrew an Phyllis and back in the Surrey area!
Will PM the info

possible marriage .again the only one showing
Name: Andrew E Walder
Spouse Surname: Hole
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1949
Registration district: Taunton
Registration county (inferred): Somerset
Volume Number: 7c
Page Number: 493
Find Spouse: Phyllis L Hole


Name: Phyllis L Hole
Mother's Maiden Surname: Patterson
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1929
Registration district: Wellington Som
Registration County: Devon/Cornwall/Seilly. Dorset/Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 335

The only way to check the death or Andrew is to buy the cert, You can cross check the dob against the birth cert but you cant view that online for 1928 on Scotlands People site ,you will have to order through the site cost £10

The death is the only one coming up for the name and year of birth

This is the only 1902 birth
Name: George Ernest Walder
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 325


his death
Name: George Ernest Walder
Birth Date: 8 Sep 1902
Death Registration Month/Year: 1974 Mar qtr
Registration district: Surrey South Eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 893

Heather was born in Sheffield 1946 .Will PM her birth

Edward doesnt show on the CWGC site as a WW2 casualty.

copying over your PM as dont think the info is too private
will delete though if you want

Andrew's parents were:
George Ernest Walder b.1902 possibly Warlingham, Surrey.
Annie McKinnon Ramsay b.1905 in Pathhead, Midlothian, Scotland. Died 1956 in Warlingham Surrey.
Married 1925 in Edinburgh.
I think the children (2) were born in Warlingham, Surrey.
George & Annie were caretakers of the Warlingham Primary School and lived in the school house.
My mother stayed there circa 1938 and went to school there for a short time.
The other child Eddie (Edward) died in Gibralter during the war circa 1945

Right found the marriage of Edward
Name: Ivy Fenton
Spouse Surname: Walder
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1944
Registration district: Sheffield
Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1190
Find Spouse: Edward R Walder


Name: Ivy Fenton
Mother's Maiden Surname: Hallam
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1928
Registration district: Sheffield
Registration County: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 763

Did a free search on Scotlands peope and it looks like both boys were born in Scotland .

You PM stated the parents were married in Edinburgh c1925

Re Ivy and Heather. When Eddie died circa 1945 they may have moved to Sheffield (where Ivy was from) or Huntingdon. Ivy possibly re-married.
I would appreciate your help. Thankyou.
Maureen