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Joe is using this thread now as he had to many on the same family

www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/records_office/thread/1256928?page=0

Sorry I disappeared I got called away and I was just going to post this!!

WILLIAM HENRY MORRIS Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: CHARLOTTE BOWCOCK Family
Marriage: 03 APR 1874 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Sorry Jan, ok I will go back to that thread called " Problems finding dead ancestors".

How have you now found out she was Charlotte Bowcock and not the other Charlotte?-----thread/1256826

1891 census
The 1891 Census for England was taken on the night of 5 April 1891

Joe the best idea is to add to the thread you already have on the board as it's all connected and people just end up repeating details and it looks like you have now got 4 threads on the same family!

I see - there is this record on the igi but it is a submiited one so may not be accurate

WILLIAM HENRY MORRIS
Event(s):
Birth: 19 DEC 1853 Salford, Manchester, Lancashire, England

Parents:
Father: SAMUEL MORRIS
Mother: ELLEN

5th April 1891 which would make Hannah at least 15 mths old

Hi Ann that's the right Church and area and family.
But what months were the censuses taken?
WOuld it make her much more than 9months old?
I think Sam and Ellen are William Henry's parents.
Not sure about Joseph.

I found baptisms for a James 21-1-1885, Walter, 17-6-1888, John 21-11-1894 and Hannah 2-4-1890 with parents William Henry & Charlotte

All at Bradford Lancs (which I think is a district of manchester)

If this is the right Hannah she was more than 9 mths old at the census point in 1891

There were other at Christ Church Bradford such as Joseph 1892, Sam 1875 & Ellen 1877

Sorry Ann I'm in a lesson now, PLEASE look out for my reply in an hour or so, if possible....Thanks!

you have put above that Charlottes maiden name was Bowcock

Does that mean you now have one of her children's birth certificates

In this thread you had not decided whether she was Charlotte mellor or Charlotte Bowcock as both married a William Henry Morris

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/records_office/thread/1256826

for more info see

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/records_office/thread/1256928

Hannah was not born in prison (or at least not Strangeways) as she was registered in Blackburn district

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1889
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MORRIS Hannah Blackburn Southern Blackburn RILEY BS/11/84

so it is the jan/feb/mar qtr one you need

Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Morris Hannah Blackburn 8e 419

edit

sorry was getting mixed up with another thread where mmn = Riley

so it is the Barton Island one dec qtr not the one above. I think Strangeways is not in that reg district

yes, that census 1901 entry is the one we have and believe to be correct.

yes, it's Bowcock

Do you know Charlotte's maiden name?

Here is William and other children on the 1891 census just for ref

1891 England Census
about William H Morris Name: William H Morris
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ardwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William H Morris 36
Eivina Morris 11 Shoud read Lavinia I think.
James Morris 6

I just rang the prison and have been told I have to write to the Govenor and they will search their records.

"If you buy her birth cert and ask for the one with the mothers name of Charlotte that may help.

I can't find Charlotte in Criminal Registers to find what she did or how long her sentance was."

Thanks very much Mel, it's a pity we can't find out why she was in.

Any other ways to find out? Contact the prison directly?