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Marriages Jun 1843 (>99%)
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Harnaman Sarah Portsea I. 7 175
SAYERS George Portsea Island 7 175

possibly -

Deaths Sep 1846 (>99%)
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Sayers Sarah Portsea I. 7 89

can't see George snr (or Sarah) in 1861 but this looks like George jnr with his paternal grandparents (original says Sayers)


1861

JAYERS, George Head Married M 77 1784 Labourer
Watlington
Sussex VIEW
JAYERS, ... Wife Married F 66 1795
Yapton
Sussex VIEW
JAYERS, Mary Daughter F 25 1836
Havant
Hampshire VIEW
JAYERS, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1855
Havant
Hampshire VIEW
>>>>>>>>JAYERS, George A Grandson M 17 1844 Labourer
Bedhampton
Hampshire VIEW
JAYERS, Rhoda Son Wife F 43 1818
Emsworth
Hampshire VIEW
JAYERS, Mary A Daughter F 10 1851
Fratton
Hampshire VIEW
JAYERS, Charley Son M 4 1857
Fritton
Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
631 Folio:
173 Page:
7

Registration District:
Havant Sub District:
1 Havant Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Purbrook

Civil Parish:
Farlington Municipal Borough:
Address:
Woodman, London Road, Farlington, Emsworth County:
Hampshire





this is the Ancestry version

1861 England Census
Name: George A Sayers
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedhampton, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Farlington
Ecclesiastical parish: Purbrook
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Havant
Sub-registration district: Havant
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
George Sayers 77
Amelia Sayers 64
Mary Sayers 25
Elizabeth Sayers 6
George A Sayers 17
Rhoda Sayers 43
Mary A Sayers 10
Charley Sayers 4

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 631; Folio: 173; Page: 7; GSU roll: 542674.

Thank you Choccy
Can you find George Sayers senior with his parents on earlier census so I can get his age

Also do you think Elizabeth Sayers 1855 is the daughter of Mary 1836. Amelia would be too old to be Elizabeths mother unless the image has the age wrong



Thank you

nudge

I've been looking for the birth of George in Hampshire, but on looking again at the census record it seems both George and Amelia were born in Sussex, so have come up with this possibility -


George Sayers

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: New Fishbourne, Sussex, England
parents: George Sayers, Amelia

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: George Sayers
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 24 Sep 1816
baptism/christening place: New Fishbourne, Sussex, England
father's name: George Sayers
mother's name: Amelia
indexing project (batch) number: I03629-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041593



I agree that in all probability Elizabeth is the daughter of Mary on the 1861 census

George Sayers

England Marriages, 1538–1973
spouse: Amelia Nash
marriage: 20 Mar 1816 — Yapton, Sussex, England

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: George Sayers
bride's name: Amelia Nash
marriage date: 20 Mar 1816
marriage place: Yapton, Sussex, England
indexing project (batch) number: I03637-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041575

Thank you once again Choccy

As I thought, in the navy.

1861 England Census
Name: Geo Sayers
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relation: Sps Cook (Cook)
Gender: Male
Where born: Fishborne, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: Sydney
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: Mar'd

Registration district: Royal Navy
Sub-registration district: Royal Navy
ED, institution, or vessel: Cordelia

1851 Wales Census
Name: George Sayers
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah Sayers
Gender: Male
Where born: Fishborne, Sussex, England
Civil Parish or Township: Pembroke St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Pembroke Dock
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: 18 Market Street

Occupation: Corporal Marine Artillery

Registration district: Pembroke
Sub-registration district: Tenby
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Household schedule number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
George Sayers 35
Sarah Sayers 29 - Bedhampton
Sarah A Sayers 3 - Bedhampton


???
Births Mar 1848
SAYERS Sarah Havant 7 95
Deaths Sep 1852
Sayers Sarah Havant 2b 199

Sarah death that Choccy found??

Births Mar 1845
SAYERS Sarah Portsea 7 135
Deaths Sep 1846
Sayers Sarah Portsea I. 7 89

"Anyone feel like looking for the other Hernaman men on later census?"

Siblings to Luke are:
Sarah, Henry, Thomas & James.


OK, let's start with James. You have him in 1841 - 1861.

1871 England Census
Name: James Hurneyman
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann R Hromeyman
Gender: Male
Where born: Brdhampton, Hampshire, England [Bedhampton, Hampshire, England]
Civil Parish: Ryhope
Ecclesiastical parish: Ryhope
Town: Ryhope Colliery
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 2 Tunstall St

Occupation: Screenman

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hurneyman 44
Ann R Hromeyman 34 - Field Work (occasionally); Sunderland
Mary A Raynor 13 - step daughter
James Hurneyman 7
William H Hurneyman 6
John W Hurneyman 4
All children born Seaham Harbour.



Marriages Sep 1862
Herniman James Easington 10a 370
Reyner Ann Graydon Easington 10a 370

Deaths Sep 1874
HURNEYMAN Ann Graydon 37 Sunderland 10a 395 [So all James's children are to Ann Graydon Stonehouse.]



1881 England Census
Name: James Hurneyman
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Hurneyman
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedhampton, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Ryhope
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 2 Tunstall Street

Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Screenman [one who separated material from coal that had been processed]

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hurneyman 54
Ann Hurneyman 53 - Fingringhoe, Essex
James Hurneyman 18 - Tokenman; Seaham Harbour
William Henry Hurneyman 16 - Pit Boy; Seaham Harbour
John William Hurneyman 13 - Pit Boy; Ryhope
Sarah Agnes Hurneyman 8 - Scholar; Ryhope



Marriages Sep 1882
Hurneyman James Sunderland 10a 693
Ord Ann Sunderland 10a 693



1891 England Census
Name: James Hurneyman
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Hurneyman
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedhampton, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Ryhope
Ecclesiastical parish: Ryhope St Pauls
Town: Ryhope Colliery
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 2 Tunstall St

Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hurneyman 65
Ann Hurneyman 70 - Fingringhoe, Essex
Henry Hurneyman 25 - Coal Miner; Seaham Harbour
John Hurneyman 23 - Coal Miner; Ryhope
Sarah Hurneyman 18 - Ryhope

Deaths Jun 1899
Hurneyman James 75 Sunderland 10a 384




1861 England Census
Name: Ann Rainer [Ann Stonehouse]
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Willm Stonehouse
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Dawdon
Town: Seaham Harbour
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: Green Street

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
Household Members:
Name Age
Willm Stonehouse 50 - Sailmaker; Stockton-On-Tees, Durham
Jane Stonehouse 22 - Sunderland
Ann Rainer 24
Mary A Rainer 3 - Seaham
Thos W Rainer 1 - Seaham


Marriages Sep 1856
Rayner Thomas Sunderland 10a 437
Stonehouse Ann Graydon Sunderland 10a 437



Deaths Dec 1893
Hurneyman Ann 74 Sunderland 10a 386

This looks like Thomas
record title: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
name: Thomas Hurneman
gender: Male
burial date: 16 Jul 1827
burial place: Bedhampton, Hampshire, England
indexing project (batch) number: I04051-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596070



And probably Sarah snr & jnr
record title: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
name: Sarah Sayers
gender: Female
burial date: 13 Sep 1852
burial place: Bedhampton, Hampshire, England
indexing project (batch) number: I04051-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596070


record title: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
name: Sarah Hurneman
gender: Female
burial date: 11 Feb 1855
burial place: Bedhampton, Hampshire, England
indexing project (batch) number: I04051-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596070


So far can't find Henry after 1841.

Thank You Ozibird. You have done well

On the 1861 census is Ann Rainer( Stonehouse) a widow. I found 2 possible death for her husband Thomas
Thomas Benjamin Rayner dec qt 1860 Easington

Thomas William Rayner dec qt 1861Easington

Can someone kindly look for Ann Ord in 1871 and earlier to see if she was married with children.
Before she married James Hernaman

Also 1841 census Thomas Dent age 50 and living in Easington Durham

Thank you kindly

I searched everywhere for Ann Ord with no luck. It's possibly her 2nd marriage.

There is a discrepancy in her age between 1881 & 1891.

More to come, just sorting it out.

Ozi

Other Anns born Fingringhoe, between 1820 & 1830, and found in 1881 & 1891 with Ann Hurneyman. Therefore eliminated.:
Mary Ann Grimwood Mary abt 1822 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Head Berechurch, Essex
Mary Ann Kent abt 1823 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Head St Giles, Essex
Mary Ann Norfolk James abt 1821 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Wife East Donyland, Essex
Mary Ann Shead abt 1830 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Head East Donyland, Essex
Sarah Ann Vince abt 1827 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Head Layer De La Hay, Essex

Others born Fingringhoe, between 1820 & 1830, and found in other censuses and could be Ann Hurneyman/Ord
1871:
Mary Ann Greenlief William abt 1822 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Wife Layer Breton, Essex
Mary Ann Payne Robert abt 1822 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Wife Great Bentley, Essex
Ann Sach abt 1820 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Head Peldon, Essex
1861:
Ann Cole abt 1823 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Wife Wivenhoe, Essex
Mary Ann Durrant William abt 1825 Fingringhoe, Suffolk, England Wife Fingringhoe, Essex
Mary Ann Kemp abt 1824 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Head Fingringhoe, Essex
Mary Ann Polley Benjamin abt 1825 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Wife East Mersea, Essex
Ann Theobald John abt 1825 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Daughter Abberton, Essex
1851:
Mary Ann Hale abt 1829 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Servant Wivenhoe, Essex
Mary Ann B Payne Robert abt 1821 Fingringhoe, Essex, England Wife Birch, Essex


These two are living in Fingringhoe in 1841, still unmarried.
Ann Baker abt 1828 Essex, England Fingringhoe, Essex (also in 1851)
Ann Wright abt 1820 Essex, England Fingringhoe, Essex

Followed up on Ann Sach, Ann Cole, Ann Theobald, Ann Wright and Ann Baker.

More to come.

Thank you Ozibird. I thought that might be the case. Plenty to work out there.

Would you like another one to look up

Anthony Dent bap 2/5/ 1824 Burton in Kendal Westmorland the same date as Ann Dent with the same parents Thomas and Elizabeth


I found a Anthony Dent age 29 living Easington and possibly could be next door to mother Elizabeth

On the 1881 census he is born 1822 Bustar which I think will be Burton occ mariner

Eliminate: Ann Sach.

Marriages Dec 1841
RUSSELL Anne Lexden &c 12 279
SACH Edward Lexden &c 12 279
(Lexden is the registration district for Fingringhoe.)

Possibly Deaths Mar 1880 Sach Ann 60 Colchester 4a 240

1881 England Census
Name: Anthony Dent
Age: 59
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah Dent
Gender: Male
Where born: Bustar, Westmorland, England
Civil Parish: Dawdon
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 50 Church St

Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Mariner

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
Household Members:
Name Age
Anthony Dent 59
Hannah Dent 50
Joseph Dent 20 - Mariner
Jane Dent 16
Alfred Dent 13



1871 England Census
Name: Anthony Dent
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah Dent
Gender: Male
Where born: Bexter, Westmorland, England [Could be Burton.]
Civil Parish: Dawdon
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Seaham Harbour
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: Henry Street

Ocupation: Deputy Harbour Master

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
Household Members:
Name Age
Anthony Dent 49
Hannah Dent 41 - Herff Hill, Durham [Looks like Sheriff Hill to me.]
Thomas Dent 17 - Labourer
Anthony Dent 15 - Labourer
John W Dent 13 - Fitter
Hannah E Dent 9
Josh F Dent 10
Jane M Dent 8
Alfred Dent 4
George H Wheatley 17 - servant
Gardiner 18 [strange one this, Just the word Gardiner unsure if first name or surname.] son: Clerk: Seaham
Thosle Reese 26 - Lodger