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1851 census (Sayers help now please)

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Battenburg

Battenburg Report 1 Feb 2011 12:44

Thank you once again Choccy

Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Feb 2011 12:09



George Sayers

England Marriages, 1538–1973
spouse: Amelia Nash
marriage: 20 Mar 1816 — Yapton, Sussex, England

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: George Sayers
bride's name: Amelia Nash
marriage date: 20 Mar 1816
marriage place: Yapton, Sussex, England
indexing project (batch) number: I03637-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041575


Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Feb 2011 12:04



I've been looking for the birth of George in Hampshire, but on looking again at the census record it seems both George and Amelia were born in Sussex, so have come up with this possibility -


George Sayers

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: New Fishbourne, Sussex, England
parents: George Sayers, Amelia

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: George Sayers
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 24 Sep 1816
baptism/christening place: New Fishbourne, Sussex, England
father's name: George Sayers
mother's name: Amelia
indexing project (batch) number: I03629-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041593



I agree that in all probability Elizabeth is the daughter of Mary on the 1861 census



Battenburg

Battenburg Report 1 Feb 2011 11:43

nudge

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 1 Feb 2011 11:13

Thank you Choccy
Can you find George Sayers senior with his parents on earlier census so I can get his age

Also do you think Elizabeth Sayers 1855 is the daughter of Mary 1836. Amelia would be too old to be Elizabeths mother unless the image has the age wrong



Thank you

Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Feb 2011 08:49



can't see George snr (or Sarah) in 1861 but this looks like George jnr with his paternal grandparents (original says Sayers)


1861

JAYERS, George Head Married M 77 1784 Labourer
Watlington
Sussex VIEW
JAYERS, ... Wife Married F 66 1795
Yapton
Sussex VIEW
JAYERS, Mary Daughter F 25 1836
Havant
Hampshire VIEW
JAYERS, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1855
Havant
Hampshire VIEW
>>>>>>>>JAYERS, George A Grandson M 17 1844 Labourer
Bedhampton
Hampshire VIEW
JAYERS, Rhoda Son Wife F 43 1818
Emsworth
Hampshire VIEW
JAYERS, Mary A Daughter F 10 1851
Fratton
Hampshire VIEW
JAYERS, Charley Son M 4 1857
Fritton
Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
631 Folio:
173 Page:
7

Registration District:
Havant Sub District:
1 Havant Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Purbrook

Civil Parish:
Farlington Municipal Borough:
Address:
Woodman, London Road, Farlington, Emsworth County:
Hampshire





this is the Ancestry version

1861 England Census
Name: George A Sayers
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedhampton, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Farlington
Ecclesiastical parish: Purbrook
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Havant
Sub-registration district: Havant
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
George Sayers 77
Amelia Sayers 64
Mary Sayers 25
Elizabeth Sayers 6
George A Sayers 17
Rhoda Sayers 43
Mary A Sayers 10
Charley Sayers 4

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 631; Folio: 173; Page: 7; GSU roll: 542674.

Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Feb 2011 08:28



possibly -

Deaths Sep 1846 (>99%)
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Sayers Sarah Portsea I. 7 89


Choccy

Choccy Report 1 Feb 2011 08:21


Marriages Jun 1843 (>99%)
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Harnaman Sarah Portsea I. 7 175
SAYERS George Portsea Island 7 175





Battenburg

Battenburg Report 1 Feb 2011 02:30

Can someone please search for George and Sarah Sayers parents of George Sayer grandson living with the Hernamans in 1851

Sarah born c1822 Bedhampton Hampshire

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 1 Feb 2011 01:30

Thank you Choccy and Ozibird.

I had to go out and didnt expect to see more help.What a challenge. Ancestry needs some corrections

Anyone feel like looking for the other Hernaman men on later census?

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 Jan 2011 23:08

????
record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: William Hurniman
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 09 Apr 1784
baptism/christening place: CHALTON,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: William Hurniman
mother's name: Anne
indexing project (batch) number: C06629-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 918888

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 Jan 2011 23:04

Deaths Jun 1847
Herniman William Havant 7 78

Deaths Mar 1855
Herneman Sarah Havant 2b 271


Marriages Jun 1843
Harnaman Sarah Portsea I. 7 175
SAYERS George Portsea Island 7 175
There are others on the same page.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 Jan 2011 22:54

Here's another one, Jill.

1841 England Census
Name: Sarah Stirnaman [Looks like Hurnaman on image]
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1781
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Bedhampton
Hundred: Portsdown
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Havant
Sub-registration district: Havant
Household Members:
Name Age
William Thraman 60 - Labourer
Sarah Stirnaman 60
Sarah Stirnaman 15
Henry Stirnaman 15
James Stirnaman 14

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 31 Jan 2011 22:50

Grief - I'm glad this is not one of my names ... what an assortment!

Jill

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 Jan 2011 22:50

1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Herniman
Age: 74
Estimated birth year: abt 1777
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Bedhampton, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Bedhampton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: Bedhampton

Occupation: Pauper

Condition as to marriage: Mar ??

Registration district: Havant
Sub-registration district: Havant
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Herniman 74
James Herniman 24 - Ag Lab
Maria Beckett 26 - unmarried; visitor; formerly servant
George Sayers 8 - grandson; scholar
Ann Millard 70 - lodger

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 Jan 2011 22:46

All children of William & Sarah, baptised Bedhampton.

Sarah Hurneyman - 10 Mar 1822
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Hampshire, England
parents: Wm. Hurneyman, Sarah

Henry Hurneman - 17 Apr 1825
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Hampshire, England
parents: William Hurneman, Sarah

Thos. Hurneman - 04 Jun 1827
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Hampshire, England
parents: William Hurneman, Sarah

James Hurneman - 04 Jun 1827
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Hampshire, England
parents: William Hurneman, Sarah

Luke Harneyman - 09 Apr 1819
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Hampshire, England
parents: William Harneyman, Sarah

Choccy

Choccy Report 31 Jan 2011 22:41



sorry Ozibird !

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 Jan 2011 22:39

1851 England Census
Name: Luke Huament
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Beahampton, Hampshire, England [Bedhampton on image]
Civil Parish: Dawdon
Ecclesiastical parish: Seaham Harbour
Town: Seaham Harbour
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: North Terrace

Occupation: mariner

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
Household Members:
Name Age
Luke Huament 29

Edit: Bummer, Choccy. You're always a few seconds ahead!

Choccy

Choccy Report 31 Jan 2011 22:38



living next door to the Dents !


1851

ORNAMENT, Luke Head Unmarried M 29 1822 Mariner
Bedhampton
Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
2392 Folio:
532 Page:
10

Registration District:
Easington Sub District:
Easington Enumeration District:
16A Ecclesiastical Parish:
Seaham Harbor

Civil Parish:
Municipal Borough:
Address:
North Terrace County:
Durham




1851

DENT, Elizabeth Head Widow F 55 1796 Washerwoman
Aikenforth
Westmorland VIEW
DENT, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 27 1824 Servant
Burton
Westmorland VIEW
DENT, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836 Scholar
Houghton Le Spring
Durham VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
2392 Folio:
532 Page:
10

Registration District:
Easington Sub District:
Easington Enumeration District:
16A Ecclesiastical Parish:
Seaham Harbor

Civil Parish:
Municipal Borough:
Address:
North Terrace County:
Durham


Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 Jan 2011 22:38

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: James Hurneman
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 04 Jun 1827
baptism/christening place: Bedhampton, Hampshire, England
father's name: William Hurneman
mother's name: Sarah Hurneman
indexing project (batch) number: I04051-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596070



record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Luke Harneyman
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 09 Apr 1819
baptism/christening place: SAINT THOMAS,BEDHAMPTON,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: William Harneyman
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C06233-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 918882