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If, as you say, she is in a pauper's grave, there won't be headstone, so no chance of learning her DOB.

Deaths Mar 1940 (>99%)
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Jarvis Doris A 24 Dartford 2a 2342


If age at death is accurate....birth more likely to be 1915....certainly no later than JFM 1916

Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
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Jarvis Alfred E V Warner Dartford 2a 1038

Good luck, let us know how you get on.
Jan

yes i think thats what i need to do thanks a lot much appreciated

Worth a try I'd say. You might also try the local papers at the library though might not be any notices if a "paupers" funeral.
I would google search the cemetary firtst as you might find details of what services they offer re. looking for burials.
Jan

yes you are right lavinia rd not s i will check the library i do have the address of the cemetary where she is buried will this give me her dob if i investigate but she has a paupers grave thanks

Hello Doris.

I suggested Lavinia Road as it sounds more likely and with older writing S and L can look quite similar. There is a Lavinia Road in Dartford too.
The only way of checking occupants for this time is to look at the electoral register, which obviously in 1938 would show people over 21. Records will be at the nearst main library. You have to search these in person or ask the staff to do a check for which they might charge.

Be aware there were no electoral registers taken during the war.

Jan

hi brummiejan could be lavinia road i'll check how would i check who lived there at that time as there is a different address on her daughters birth certificate which was only 2 years later thanks

Probably of no help but the address might be Lavinia Road I think.

hi on the marriage certificate of doris amy brackley & alfred e v jarvis her father says deseased and he was a farmer the witnesses present were jessie jarvis and alfred edwin jarvis the residence address is 10 savinia rd dartford

what was fathers occupation on the marriage cert?

May help

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BRACKLEY, Emma
Address: Chivery St Leonards Tring


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BRACKLEY, George Head Married M 60 1851 Builder And Fermer Bucks Buckland Common VIEW
BRACKLEY, Emma Wife Married
40 years F 61 1850 Bucks Buckland Common VIEW
BRACKLEY, Rose Daughter Single M 21 1890 Dairy Work Bucks St Leonards Aston Clinton VIEW
BRACKLEY, Horace Son Single M 19 1892 Helper In Building Trade Bucks St Leonards Aston Clinton VIEW

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Doris if you tell us who the witnesses on the marriage certificate were too it could help

mistranscription at freebmd doesn't help

Marriages Sep 1918
Brackley Horace Humphreys Aylesbury 3a 2236
HUMPHREYS Alice Brackley Aylesbury 3a 2833

just because the name Horace Brackley is rather unusual and I thought it might be worth noting.


... actually searching at freebmd Horace Brackley was a rather popular name, lol

that marriage looks like the Horace born 1892 in Aylesbury ... he died in WWI in Dec 1918 ..... after the war ended !

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=555457

Son of George and Emma Brackley, of Chivery, St. Leonards, Tring; husband of Alice Brackley, of Cholesbury, Tring, >>>> Herts.

HER FATHER WAS GEORGE HORACE BRACKLEY

.... except there is no record of that name (birth marriage death) in the GRO index ...

I suspect her birth was registered under a different surname and George Horace Brackley is a name patched together because her parents weren't married, for example


there are two deaths for a George H Brackley

George H Brackley 1929 Wycombe Buckinghamshire aged 69
George H Brackley 1933 Aylesbury Buckinghamshire aged 62

On the birth registration it just says Hemel Hempstead....so do these people know more by saying Bovingdon? It is worth asking if you hav'nt already.

If you are thinking it is not the correct person because her middle name began with a "L" I would'nt worry about that because my grandmother had the middle initials" G E" on her marriage cert when it should have been a "M"

Just had another look at those trees and the same two people who have Alfred have all three Doris's in their tree??? so I would'nt ask them


I have found this tree on ancestry so the Australian one does not look like yours either

Doris Brackley
Birth: 30 Aug 1915 - Inglewood, Vic (Victoria)
Death: 18 Apr 1995 - Bendigo, Vic (Victoria)
Marriage: 18 Jul 1932 - Inglewood, Vic (Victoria)
Spouse: Leonard Victor Yates

Could you tell us what Doris;s fathers occupation was plus the names of the witnesses on the marriage cert

jax

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I AM TRYING TO FIND DORIS AMY BRACKLEY MARRIED AGE 23 TO ALFRED ERNEST VALENTINE JARVIS 1938 IN DARTFORD SHE DIED IN JAN 1940 AGE 24 IN DARTFORD HER FATHER WAS GEORGE HORACE BRACKLEY THIS IS ALL THE INFORMATION I HAVE AND I HAV E SEARCHED SEARCHED FOR THEIR BIRTH RECORD DORIS AND GEORGE BUT CAN'T FIND THEM
I HAVE FOUND DORIS 1916 MOTHER KINGHAM AND DORIS 1917MOTHER BAKER BUT HAVE CHECKED THEIR TREES AND THESE ARE NOT DORIS AMY BRACKLEY THERE IS A DORIS BORN IN INGLEWOOD VICTORIA AUS IN 1915 BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET THE RECORD UP SO I CAN CHECK IT ANY IDEAS HELP JOAN

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Just thought I would add though, I take it you have searched the trees and found Doris born in Australia?? have you contacted the tree owners to see if she came to England at some point?

There are 2 people with Alfred Jarvis and Doris Brackley in their tree and both say she was born 1917 in Bovingdon Herts?? which I would think is the mmn Baker

hi yes i am waiting for it to be delivered monday hope that will help this is costing me a fortune
thanks jan for the brackley family information i did contact someone with a tree with all these people on but that doris died in 2003 so put me at a dead end i need to start at the beginning again ive been hours researching and its all wrong doris

Why not just purchase her marriage cert then you will have her father's name.
Jan