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Birth, marriage and parentage of William Grant

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Sarah

Sarah Report 5 Feb 2011 18:41

Things aren't as clear cut as I hoped! Do you think Frances Grant age 2 is the same Fanny from 1881 census then? If so and the marriage date to Mary Ann is correct, then I suppose it's possible that Frances/Fanny was originally born out of wedlock to William and Mary.
I will try and get hold of the marriage certificate Patchem - but I'm a little confused at the 5 5 reference. I'm assuming it means vol 5 page 5 - is that right? And could you please advise me on where to look for the certificate - would it be Ashford registry office or would I have to apply to Kent County records?
Thanks again everyone. If I can verify Thomas as the father, can anyone find who he married?

Sarah

Sarah Report 5 Feb 2011 18:01

Thank you for all your help guys. This looks helpful, but I'll have to look at it in more detail in about half hour, as I'm just about to serve tea. Will comment further when I have a chance to study further :0)

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 5 Feb 2011 17:59

Marriage looks quite good Patchem, especially Mary Ann Smith - could child belong to Mary Ann pre marriage and have been adopted by William?

patchem

patchem Report 5 Feb 2011 17:54

Possibly wrong marriage, from age of child in 1851?
1851 England Census
William Grant
Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Grant Gender: M (Male) Where born: Ashford, Kent, England Civil Parish: Oare County/Island: Kent
Country: England Street address: court lodge farm
Occupation: ag lab Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Boughton ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 80

William Grant 23
Mary Grant 19
Frances Grant 2

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1626; Folio: 443; Page: 27; GSU roll: 193527.

patchem

patchem Report 5 Feb 2011 17:51

Marriages Dec 1850
Amos Harriet E Ashford 5 5
Austen Finch E Ashford 5 5
Buesden George E Ashford 5 5
Coleman Emely E. Ashford 5 5
xxx Grant William E Ashford 5 5
Smith Mary E. Ashford 5 5
Smith Mary Ann E. Ashford 5 5

Get the marriage certificate for Father's name.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 5 Feb 2011 17:48

When did he marry Mary Smith

This William Grant has a differently named father.

Name: William Grant - occ labourer
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Mary Smith
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1855
Parish: St Paul, Deptford
County: Kent
Borough: Lewisham
>>>Father Name: William Grant - occ upholsterer
Spouse Father Name: William Atkins - occ cooper

Mary was a widow.

EDIT: Now obviously wrong marriage as too late for child in census 1851 - but left posted for elimination purposes.

patchem

patchem Report 5 Feb 2011 17:48

Just for reference:
1881 England Census
William Grant Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary A. Grant Gender: Male
Where born: Kennington, Kent, England Civil Parish: Preston Next Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Copton Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Baliff Registration district: Faversham Sub-registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 3

William Grant 54
Mary A. Grant 50
William Grant 29
Fanny Grant 32
Lewis Grant 13

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 968; Folio: 48; Page: 31; GSU roll: 1341230.

Astra

Astra Report 5 Feb 2011 17:47

According to a tree on Family Search his father was Thomas and he was born in Chilham. On every other census apart from 1841 when he was working in Kennington he says he was born in Ashford.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 5 Feb 2011 17:44

Only a submitted record so could be wrong.

WILLIAM GRANT Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 24 JUN 1827 St Mary'S, Kennington, Kent, England

Parents:
Father: THOMAS GRANT Family
Mother: SARAH


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Sarah

Sarah Report 5 Feb 2011 17:32

Hi
I'm trying to find the birth, marriage and parents of William Grant 1827.
According to 1881 census, William was born in Kennington, Kent and was married to Mary Smith. I believe his father is named Thomas and was born about 1795, but I can't find where this information came from, as it was passed on to me. Is there anyone who can confirm Thomas as William's father, tell me more about him and who William's mother was. Any help would be gratefully received. Many thanks.