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Hi Lyulph

Thank you for this information. I appreciate it.

I do check my threads every so often as any more info is always welcome.

Kind regards
Karen

Hello Lyulph and welcome to the boards.

It has been a couple of months since this thread was being used and it may be that jdkaz isn't checking it any more.

You can try clicking on their name and sending your message that way. If they still have the same email address, they will be notified.


Meanwhile, if you are looking for other possible relatives, then try putting the names you are researching into the Search Trees box above to see if anyone else on the site has them in their tree. If you find a connection, you can contact the tree owner.


Also, if you would like help with your own research, then why not start a thread of your own? Take a look at the first message on this board for further advice. Regards. Cx.

I think I can add a feww gaps in for you here.

Thomas (the grandfather) was born ca 1838 and died in 1909. He married a Mary Ann Digby on 8 Mar 1860 at St Mary, Kelling.

They had the following children

Thomas (1859-1861)
George Richard (1862- )
Cecilia (1863 - ) [sometimes known a Celia]
Esther Ann (1865- )
Martin (1866- )
John (1867- )
Samuel (1870-1958) m Alice Joanna Steward 19 Sep 1898
Mary Maria (1871- ) [she later dropped the Mary and called herself Maria]
Mary Ann (1872- )
Margaret (1875- )
Richard (1876- )

Edward was born to Celia as you say and married Mary Elizabeth Duffield in 1910. I know of one daughter Gladys (b1913) who married Lawrence Woodhouse in 1936.

FYI
Thomas the grandfather was the son of Martin LUBBOCK and Cecilia COE after whom your Cecilia is named. This family goes back to the 1700's (at least as far as I have been able to trace) in Kelling.

Ah I looked and saw the birth, but didnt see the death, thank you very much. I couldnt see a birth of the 1871 census Thomas either. A mystery!

No, can't be him - here is his death -

Deaths Jun 1861 (>99%)
Lubbock Thomas Tunstead 4b 29

There is a Thomas Lubbock birth which matches his age of 22 in 1881??

Births Jun 1859 (>99%)
Lubbock Thomas Tunstead 4b 49

Thank you Lynne

There is a discrepancy then

1871 census -

LUBBOCK, Thomas Head M 34 1837 Norfolk
LUBBOCK, Mary A Wife F 32 1839 Norfolk
LUBBOCK, George Son M 9 1862 Norfolk
LUBBOCK, Cecelia Daughter F 8 1863 Norfolk
LUBBOCK, Esther Daughter F 6 1865 Norfolk LUBBOCK, Martin Son M 5 1866 Norfolk
LUBBOCK, Thomas Son M 4 1867 Norfolk
LUBBOCK, Samuel Son M 1 1870 Norfolk
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
1800 Folio:
169b Page:
14

Registration District:
Erpingham Sub District:
Holt Enumeration District:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Kelling Municipal Borough:
Address:
The Street, Kelling County:
Norfolk

Hi Please could someone find me the 1871 census record for Cecilia Lubbock and let me know her brothers.

The 1881 census shows her brother Thomas age 22 but the info I was given by my gran about the 1871 census (which I havent seen myself yet) shows Thomas as age 4.
I am just wondering if my Gran wrote it down wrong or if the census really showed that.

Many thanks
Karen

I now have Edward Lubbocks marriage certificate and he has named Thomas Lubbock as his father (i am assuming his grandfather). Which raises more questions. Did he believe that his grandfather was his father, did he put him down as he was the man who brought him up and was his father figure, etc etc It does make you wonder.

Just thought I would add my findings to the thread

For ref - see my Richardson thread where I am trying to find details of Thomas Richardson (c 1851) ie immediate family before marriage etc

For Info - I found birth record for Edward

Births Dec 1879 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lubbock Edward Erpingham 4b 73

Thank you - I will take a look at the records

Kind regards
Karen

ps - I love the little story

Hi Karen

Sorry but the baptism of Eddie/Edward makes no mention of a father.

You can search Norfolk records yourself here

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#w=0&p=waypoint&s=waypointsOnly&c=fs%3A1416598

They are original images so take a bit of trawling through but sometimes the vicar adds a little gem - in the case of one of my 2x gt grandmothers from Wymondham, Norfolk the vicar noted on her baptism in 1837 just a few months after her birth that 'the father has been abroad for the past 4 years'. Turns out that he had been transported for sheep stealing and couldn't actually have been her father anyway.

You're ahead of me - looks like Mary is correct then!

I am definitely going to order both birth and marriage certificates - fingers crossed.

Thx again

Possible?
Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
LUBBOCK Edward Erpingham 4b 107
(no spouses names show)
probably one of these:-
Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
COOPER Mary Ann Erpingham 4b 89
xxxx Duffield Mary Elizabeth Erpingham 4b 1_7 xxxx
GANT Mary Ann E Erpingham 4b 93
GAUT Mary Ann E Erpingham 4b 95

Ah that's a good idea - I hadnt thought of that. I believe he married Mary Duffield but I havent got a clue yet where, when etc as its only tonight I have started to think more about him. I was just given that info by a family member, not yet checked.

1911
LUBBOCK, Edward Head Married M 31 1880 Bricklayer Kelling Norfolk VIEW
LUBBOCK, Mary Wife Married 1 years F 27 1884 Norfolk Kelling VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
11193 Reference:
RG14PN11193 RG78PN609 RD222 SD2 ED12 SN41

Registration District:
Erpingham Sub District:
Sheringham Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
Kelling

Address:
Green Lane Kelling Holt Norfolk County:
Norfolk

..............married 1yr. so marriage looks to be the correct one!

Thank you - no I hadnt got these yet

Do you have the marriage cert. of Edwin?
This usually gives the father's name, if known.
I have someone in my tree that was illegitimate so I thought I would never know who the father was, but when I bought the marriage cert. even though the parents never married, the father's name was actually noted on the cert.
Could be worth a shot?