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Doreen

Doreen Report 12 Feb 2011 23:56

I am trying to find out about my Grandmother Alice McDonald who was born in Dundee Scotland in 1899. She landed up in South Africa with her parents when a small girl, but I am led to believe they went to Australia when she was about 3 years old. They lived in MaDonald road in Durban when in South Africa. Can anybody help me please.
Kind regards
Doreen (granddaughter)

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Feb 2011 01:35

Do you know her parents' names?

Ozi

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 13 Feb 2011 02:09

Or which part [state or city] of Australia they went to??

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Feb 2011 03:50

there are at least 2 Alice Mcdonald's born in 1899 on the 1901 Scottish census


we need more inforamtion in order to be able to help you.


For information ..... it's Dundee, Forfarshire




sylvia

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 13 Feb 2011 11:30

This them??

1901 Scotland Census
about James R Mcdonald
Name: James R Mcdonald
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Amy E Mcdonald
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 45 Dens Road Melbourne Pce
Occupation: Bootmaker Foreman
ED: 44
Household schedule number: 1
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1901_102
Household Members:
Name Age
James R Mcdonald 39
Amy E Mcdonald 39.......England
James R Mcdonald 16....England
Amy E Mcdonald 14.......West Australia, Perth
Robert R Mcdonald 12.....West Australia, Melbourne
Flora E Mcdonald 9........West Australia,Melbourne
Thomas O Mcdonald 4....Dundee
Alice Mcdonald 2.............Dundee
Minnie E Mcdonald 8mo...Dundee


Marion

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 14 Feb 2011 03:43

If so...

Amy Constance McDONALD was born to James & Amy (nee MOORE) in Perth in 1886 (reg 28737).

Then in Victoria, James Rowe McDONALD & Amy Elizabeth MOORE had the following chn:
Robert Richard b. 1888 Collingwood (Melbourne)
Clarence b. 1890 Collingwood, d. 1890 aged 2 weeks
Florrie Elizabeth b. 1891 Collingwood

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 14 Feb 2011 03:51

Marriage in England?

Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%)
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Macdonald James Rhoine Bethnal Green 1c 741
Moore Amy Elizabeth Bethnal Green 1c 741

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 14 Feb 2011 03:53

His birth:

Births Jun 1861 (>99%)
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MCDONALD James Rowe Shoreditch 1c 129

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 14 Feb 2011 04:01

Of course, all is elementary til Doreen comes back! :)

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Feb 2011 07:03

Well done MarionfromScotland & Cherilyn. Certainly looking hopeful.

Ozi

Lynski

Lynski Report 14 Feb 2011 09:01

I have sent a PM to Doreen about coming back to her thread.

Helen

Helen Report 14 Feb 2011 13:31

Scotlandspeople: Checked for the years 1897 -1901.

2 births coming up for:

Alice McDonald
1899
County: Dundee City
District: St Andrew (Dundee) (same district as the 1901 census info)

Suspect the two births are one and the same person. ie Alice McDonald.

£6 for 30 credits
1 credit to view the index
5 credits to download and view the original certificate which will also register the date of the parents marriage.

www.Scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Doreen

Doreen Report 14 Feb 2011 19:39

Thank you everybody for you assistance and to Marion who has found them in the 1901 Scottish Census which explains the Australian connection. I would still like to hear how they got there and why. The family emigrated to South Africa after living in Scotland, but I don't know when. Her father was James Row Mcdonald, and her mother was Amy ?Rowe ? died 29.8.1946 in England/Scotland. All the children moved to South Africa and died there.
Looking forward to hearing from anyone who can help.
Much appreciated
Doreen

Doreen

Doreen Report 14 Feb 2011 20:10

Thanks to everybody for all this information. This all seems to fit the picture. Any more information will be most appreciated. Amy must have been Moore although I can;t be 100% certain. It all looks so ttrue.
Please keep the information coming - it is so exciting finding my family
Thank you in aniticipation.
Kind regards
Doreen - great granddaughter of Amy Mcdonald

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 15 Feb 2011 09:25

Hi Doreen

My pleasure, happy to be able to help.

Seems fairly definite...certainly that Amy's mn was MOORE. Next step would probably be to order the 1882 marriage certificate from the UK.

This will help you get further back on both sides.

Cheers
Cherilyn

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 15 Feb 2011 09:30

From IGI

JAMES ROWE MC DONALD Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 12 MAY 1861

Christening: 23 JUN 1861 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: ROBERT MC DONALD Family
Mother: ANN

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 15 Feb 2011 09:32

James Rowe McDonald Compact Disc #142 Pin #4016053 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)

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Parents

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Amy Moore Disc #142 Pin #4016054
Marriage: 24 Dec 1882
St Thomas Church, Belknot Green, London


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Personal Information
Occupation: 1897
Shoemaker


Submitted file - the submitter appears to be in South Africa!!!!

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=search_all1.asp&clear_form=true

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 15 Feb 2011 09:33

She also has this one for his son - fits neatly with the Thos O in the 1901 census:

Thomas Oliver Mcdonald Compact Disc #142 Pin #4016028 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 30 Mar 1897

11 Arley Street, Dundee, Scotland

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Parents
Father: James Rowe McDonald Disc #142 Pin #4016053
Mother: Amy Moore Disc #142 Pin #4016054

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Bessie Dorey Disc #142 Pin #4016029
Marriage: 2 Apr 1923
Wesleyan Methodist Church, Greyville, Natal, South Africa

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 15 Feb 2011 14:36

Name: James McDonald
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's name: Robert McDonald
Mother's name: Ann McDonald
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Haggerstone
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerston West
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert McDonald 44
Ann McDonald 36
Ann McDonald 14
Robert McDonald 12
James McDonald 10
Emma McDonald 6
Thomas McDonald 4
Elizabeth McDonald 2
Clara Titlow 17

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 15 Feb 2011 20:21

This is where the Rowe comes from.

Marriages Jun 1857
McDonald Robert Clerkenwell 1b 717
Rowe Ann Clerkenwell 1b 717