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Thanks for your help Chris. We've solved one mystery (the name of Charles Burgess's "wife") only to be confronted with another! I think I will have to leave this one as "unproven" - at least for the time being. Shame.

Gai

Lol Gai, no, didn't dispute you :-))

I too can't find that death, or marriage either...
Not an easy one :-)

Chris :)

OK. So Sarah HOUCHEN marries William Stapleton in 1870 and is living with him in 1871. Is this the same person who is Jane Amelia BURGESS's mother? I haven't been able to find a Sarah or William Stapleton in 1881 or 1891 to rule this out. Can anyone else disprove this?

Sarah is with Charles Burgess in 1881, so what happened to William Stapleton? I cannot find a death record either!

It looks very much like Sarah and Charles did not actually marry. Is there any where to go from here?

G

Well, I always get them muddled up anyway and I'm a G! Serioiusly though I wondered if Chris thought that meant the census I found was not the right one? What do you think?

Gee :)

Particularly hard here in bilingual Canada where, in French, G is pronounced Jay and J is pronounced Jee.

It has been transcribed as G and does look like a G on the image - it should be J shouldn't it? It is fairly common to get those two mixed up though isn't it? "JEE" and "JAY" ??

Gai

Is that a G or J on the image?...

Births Jun 1844 (>99%)
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Stapleton William Joseph Colchester 12 60

Could be him...

Edits, looks good :-)

Well done, Gai!!!

I think I've found them - looks like Stapleton on the image:

Sarah Stepleton
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William G Stepleton
Gender: Female
Where born: Mile End, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Benet
Town: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 55
Household schedule number: 182
Household Members: Name Age
William G Stepleton 27
Sarah Stepleton 21

He is a stone mason born Essex and she is a Tailoress born Mile End.

Shirley - yes, that's what I wondered.

Chris - thanks and well done! So, she married William Stapleton! I am confused about the birth record and the date of birth given on the baptism but I believe the family were illiterate (she made her mark on Jane Amelia's birth cert) so it's possible they couldn't correct what was written - that might also account for the (slightly) different name?

So, did William Stapleton die? Can anyone find them in 1871 ?

G

G

Lever Young married Sarah Ann Ainsworth so Sarah Mahala must have married William Joseph Stapleton.

Name: Sarah Ann Ainsworth
Spouse Name: Lever Young
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 11 Jul 1870
Parish: Holy Trinity, Mile End Old Town
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Ainsworth
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Young

Sorry Chris Ho, just noticed you already confirmed that!

Yes, odd that MadBull, Houchen on marriage image!.

1851 does say 6mths, so a month out for Census in March...not sure :-)

Chris :)

On Sarah Mahala's baptism record the name looks more like Houchin. There were 4 children of the couple baptised same day. She was born 7 Aug. 1851 and baptised 18 Nov. 1857.

wonder whether she married and then separated from ner husband.

1881 census
Name: Christopher F. Houchen
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Annie Houchen
Gender: Male
Where born: Doddinghurst, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Hamlet
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 54 Bancroft Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: General Labourer

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Christopher F. Houchen 37
Annie Houchen 47
Esther Houchen 16



Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 480; Folio: 94; Page: 29; GSU roll: 1341105.

Name: Sarah Mealiah Houcher
Spouse Name: William Joseph Stapleton
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 10 Jul 1870
Parish: Holy Trinity, Mile End Old Town
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Christopher Houcher
Spouse Father Name: Charles Stapleton

Takes us back to the marriage to Lavan Young or William Joseph Stapleton

Marriages Sep 1870

AINSWORTH Sarah Ann Mile End 1c 990
HOUCHEN Sarah Mealiah Mile End 1c 990
Stapleton William Joseph Mile End 1c 990
Young Laven Mile End 1c 990

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Sarah Mahala Houden (Houchen)
Name: Sarah Mahala Houden
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1857
Baptism Date: 18 Nov 1857
Father's name: Christopher Houden
Mother's name: Mary Ann Houden
Parish or Poor Law Union: Mile End Old Town St Peter
Borough: Tower Hamlets

(could be mistake on image, says born 7th Aug 1851, fathers occ. Tailor)


Births Dec 1850 (>99%)
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Houchen Sarah Mahala Stepney 2 544


1851

HOUCHEN, Christopher Head Married M 31 1820 Tailor
Great Ellingham
Norfolk VIEW
HOUCHEN, Mary Ann Wife Married F 29 1822
Ashley
Cambridgeshire VIEW
HOUCHEN, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 6 1845
Ashley
Cambridgeshire VIEW
HOUCHEN, Robert Son M 2 1849
Stepney
Middlesex VIEW
HOUCHEN, Sarah Daughter F 0 (6 MOS) 1851
Stepney
Middlesex VIEW

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1553 Folio:
597 Page:
24

Registration District:
Stepney Sub District:
Mile End Old Town Lower Enumeration District:
28 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Saint Peters

Civil Parish:
Mile End Old Town Municipal Borough:
Tower Hamlets Address:
8, East Street, Mile End Old Town, Tower Hamlets County:
Middlesex

(Not sure if this fits)

Chris :)

1891 census she says was born mile end
BURGESS, Chas Head Married M 39 1852 Boot Finisher
Bethnal Green VIEW
BURGESS, Sarah Wife Married F 39 1852 Tailoress
Mile End VIEW
BURGESS, Sarah Daughter F 14 1877 Tailoress
Bow VIEW
BURGESS, Jane Daughter F 5 1886
Bethnal Green VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
272 Folio:
49 Page:
29

Registration District:
Bethnal Green Sub District:
Bethnal Green East Enumeration District:
18 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Simon Zelotes

Civil Parish:
Bethnal Green Municipal Borough:
North East Bethnal Green Address:
19, Knottisford Street, Bethnal Green, North East Bethnal Green County