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Here's Jane Amelia:

Name: Jane Amelia Burgess
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1885
Baptism Date: 29 Nov 1885
Father's name: Charles Burgess
Mother's name: Sarah Burgess
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St James the Great
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Original says born Nov. 9, 27 Tottie? St., father a finisher.

There's baptisms of 2 children here on the same day. For Thomas it says born 24 May, for Sarah 12 April, no years given but parents are same, address same, 55 Appian Rd. and father is a finisher for both.

Name: Sarah Burgess
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1877
Baptism Date: 30 Sep 1877
Father's name: Charles Burgess
Mother's name: Sarah Burgess
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St James the Great
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Name: Thomas Burgess
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1877
Baptism Date: 30 Sep 1877
Father's name: Charles Burgess
Mother's name: Sarah Burgess
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St James the Great
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Patchem - The 1881 census just gives London; the 1891 gives MILE END as her birth place. I had no idea what Laven might mean. I'll try Leven instead! Thanks.

Shirley - no, I can't find her as Houchen, Young or Stapleton (!)

G

For reference:
1891 England Census
Chas Burgess
Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Burgess Gender: Male Where born: Bethnal Green Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Simons Zelotes County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green East ED, institution, or vessel: 18

Chas Burgess 39
Sarah Burgess 39 Tailoress Mile End
Sarah Burgess 14
Jane Burgess 5

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 272; Folio 49; Page 29; GSU roll: 6095382.

ITs possible her birth wasnt registered It wasnt compulsary till 1875. Have you found her on any census pre marriage?

Laven is probably Leven.
Where is she from on the censuses?

Oh! Good point. She was 29 in 1881 census and 39 in 1891 census so about 1852. Perhaps the birth in Stepney is not her.

G

Have you got a birth date for Sarah?
Thanks

Jane Amelia BURGESS was born in 1885 in Bethnal Green. Her father was Charles Burgess born 1852 and her mother Sarah. I have found this family on various census - Jane had a brother Thomas born 1874 and a sister Sarah born 1877. I haven't been able to find a marriage for Charles and Sarah anywhere so sent off for Jane Amelia's birth cert which gives her parents as Charles Burgess and Sarah HOUCHEN. The only marriage for Sarah Houchen is 1870 to either Laven (?) YOUNG or William STAPLETON. In 1871 Charles is single with his parents, so it is possible that Sarah was married previously - but to who? and what happened? - Did she and Charles ever marry?

Can anyone help me find Sarah in 1871 please? Or earlier? FreeBMD has a birth record for 1850 in Stepney but all other HOUCHEN's seem to hail from Norfolk.

Many thanks - Gai