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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 6 Nov 2011 22:50

Name: Esther Pryer
Birth Date: abt 1881
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1960
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Ipswich
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 783


Name: Peter Philip Pryer
Birth Date: 19 Jul 1885
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1973
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Samford
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 3417

Nina

Nina Report 6 Nov 2011 22:06

Can anyone tell me how I can find out where I can find workhouse inmates or orphanages on the 1911 census. My GG grandmother Hilda Ruth Mizen was born 1902 and died 1920. Thanks for any help.

Nina

Nina Report 10 Jul 2011 13:26

I think I have traced my grandmother's father. John McCarthy, R.G.A, Gunner 41449. I have found his medal card on Ancestry and he was awarded the Victory, British and 1915 Star. I think he served in France around 1914. There doesn't seem to be any more information on the medal card. Does anyone know where I may be able to find out his DOB, where he may have died. I know he was posted abroad from Falmouth in 1920. Any assistance greatly appreciated.

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Nina

Nina Report 28 Mar 2011 16:10

I still can't locate any death record for Esther Mizen born 1881 married Peter Phillip Pryer in 1909. I think they had three children. Can anyone help with the date of death and/or if Edith Lilian Pryer got married.

Nina

Nina Report 28 Mar 2011 11:47

Am also trying to trace death record of Esther Preyer Born 1881 (nee Mizen) but can't seem to locate it.

Nina

Nina Report 28 Mar 2011 10:28

Can anyone help with the previous posting. Having found an unexpected branch of the family, I am now trying to find family Pryer (if there was anyone). I have only traced backwards. Can anyone give me some advice on going forwards from Edith Lilian Pryer born 1910. Thank you

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Mar 2011 21:02

Nina, once you find a marriage record on feebmd, you can click the blue reference number to see who else is listed on same page

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 27 Mar 2011 20:26

PRYER, Peter Philip Head Married M 25 1886 Labourer On Farm Kingsdown Kent VIEW
PRYER, Esther Wife Married
2 years F 30 1881 Eriswell Suffolk VIEW
PRYER, Edith Lilian Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Fawkham Kent VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3807 Reference:
RG14PN3807 RG78PN144 RD43 SD4 ED14 SN44

Registration District:
Dartford Sub District:
Farningham Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Fawkham

Address:
Sun Hiil Fawkham Longfield Kent

jansmith

jansmith Report 27 Mar 2011 20:23

was she still in the home in 1911 ?

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 Mar 2011 20:12

Answering your request from other thread on here to keep it all together.

Marriages Mar 1909 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

MIZEN Esther - Dartford 2a 727
PRYER Peter Philip - Dartford 2a 727

Nina

Nina Report 27 Mar 2011 18:16

Can anyone help me. I am trying to find out where my great grandmother may have been buried. Hilda Mizen, died 1920 in Bury St Edmunds. Can you tell me how I will find out this information.

Thank you.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Feb 2011 19:22

36 Mill Road could have been the postal address of the Workhouse Infirmary. They stopped using the Description of Workhouse Infirmary and used postal addresses because people objected to the stigma of Workhouse when they had just been in the Hospital for childbirth or medical treatment . These Infirmary's often became the local Hospital when the NHS came into being in the 1940.s

Nina

Nina Report 19 Feb 2011 19:01

The informants on both birth certs and death cert of daughter and mother respectively were F G Roach, Occupier, 36 Mill Road, Bury St Edmunds the death cert was registered on 31 August 1920 and the birth registered on 15 October. Have no idea who this is. Hilda Mizen (mother) was living as a domistic servant in abbey lane, Ixworth, suffolk

Potty

Potty Report 17 Feb 2011 19:36

Nina,

Who were the informants on the birth and death certs?

Nina

Nina Report 17 Feb 2011 15:13

Barnados notes only say he is the putative father but as brought her to the orphanage and he offerred to pay money for her to stay with them, he is our only link, Her birth certificate is blank for father. We knew her as McCarthy Mizen so assume he was - all very vague

Potty

Potty Report 17 Feb 2011 15:12

This site:
orbat.com/site/history/historical/uk/ops1919-39.html

has lists of where regiments were between 1919-1939. Lots of RFAs mentioned but only with brigade Nos.

Also, discovered whilst searching that from August 1920 the system of allocating Army nos changed from so that each Regiment was allocated a series of numbers and that when a man was given a number it stayed with him throughout his Army career even if he changed regiments.

All men were allocated a new number, so that 41449 won't apply after then - just to make the search more difficult!

Nina

Nina Report 17 Feb 2011 14:57

she was put into Barnados in Bury St Edmonds and their records which are not many say that he was going to be posted from Falmouth for a 2 year overseas posting,

Nina

Nina Report 17 Feb 2011 14:55

Address on death certificate of Hilda Mizen before she died in 1920 is Abbey Lane, Ixworth Suffolk, she was listed as a domestic servant

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Feb 2011 14:38

If Hilda was 9 weeks when she put into Barnardos her birth would have already been registered , If the Workhouse Infirmary reg Hilda's death then would they know who the purported father was,
Also Hilda would have died in the Workhouse Infirmary not the workhouse, This wouldn't mean she was an inmate necessarily of the workhouse.

Have you got the death cert ? presume you have as you know the actual death date. Does it give a home address for Hilda?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Feb 2011 14:32

Falmouth is a long way from Bury St Edmonds in Suffolk.
Which Barnardos was she put in?

You say you assume the M in the baby surname was for Mcacrthy which says to me you havent got the actual birth cert which may give more clues ??