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Barbara
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24 Feb 2011 04:23 |
Thanks for all the info. I forgot to say that John William JAMES migrated to Australia in 1868 and remained there until his death in 1919. Has anyone had any luck yet with TJ in 1861 and 1871 census? Keen to know where he was living and what other relatives may have been with him. His father and 2nd wife are also missing in 1871, but there is a strong possibility that his father was deceased by then. Stepmother remarried in 1884. His father's 2nd wife just happens to be Clarinda's sister, so hoping the sisters may have stayed together. Other family are also missing in 1861 so am assuming they were all living near each other and that those records are missing or damaged. Thanks
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24 Feb 2011 02:34 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Edward Albert James Name: Edward Albert James Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1874 Baptism Date: 29 Mar 1874 Father's Name: Thomas James Mother's Name: Cutlender James Parish or Poor Law Union: Limehouse Fields St John Borough: Tower Hamlets
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24 Feb 2011 01:29 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Clarinda James Name: Clarinda James Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: 14 Aug 1859 Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1861 Father's Name: Thomas Joseph James Mother's Name: Clarinda James Parish or Poor Law Union: Mile End Old Town Holy Trinity Borough: Tower Hamlets father's occupation bricklayer, address 4 Regent Street
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24 Feb 2011 01:26 |
also these baptisms
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Jemima James Name: Jemima James Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 10 Oct 1871 Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1879 Father's Name: Thomas Joseph James Mother's Name: Clarinda James Parish or Poor Law Union: St Stephen, Tredegar Road Borough: Tower Hamlets London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Robert Brager James Name: Robert Brager James Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 8 Jan1879 Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1879 Father's Name: Thomas Joseph James Mother's Name: Clarinda James Parish or Poor Law Union: St Stephen, Tredegar Road Borough: Tower Hamlets father's occupation bricklayer, address 7 Down Street
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24 Feb 2011 01:18 |
Clarinda James England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1860 — Mile End, Middlesex, England residence: West Ham, Essex, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Clarinda James age: 21 gender: Female birth year: 1860 birthplace: Mile End, Middlesex, England relationship to head of household: Serv marital condition: Unknown profession / occupation: Nursemaid address: Atherton Rd (Lynton House) census place: West Ham, Essex, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341411 the national archives reference: RG11 piece / folio: 1721 / 47 page number:
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24 Feb 2011 01:16 |
William John James England and Wales Census, 1891 birth: St Pancras, London residence: England record title: England and Wales Census, 1891 name: William John James age: 31 gender: Male birthplace: St Pancras, London relationship to head of household: Head record type:
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24 Feb 2011 01:16 |
John William James England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1859 — Marylebone, Middlesex, England residence: Westminster St John Evangelist, London, Middlesex, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: John William James age: 22 gender: Male birth year: 1859 birthplace: Marylebone, Middlesex, England relationship to head of household: Military Prisoner marital condition: Unknown profession / occupation: Soldier & Carpenter address: "Millbank Prison" Millbank census place: Westminster St John Evangelist, London, Middlesex, England record type: Institution family history library film: 1341026 the national archives reference: RG11 piece / folio: 0116 / 103 page number: 15
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24 Feb 2011 01:14 |
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Frederick C. KITSON Head M Male 27 Stratford, Essex, England Merchants Clerk Agnes R. KITSON Wife M Female 26 Stratford, Essex, England Lucy A. KITSON Daur U Female 1 Mile End, Middlesex, England Helen H. LEIGH Serv U Female 23 Muswell Hill, Middlesex, England General Serv Clarinda JAMES Serv U Female 21 Mile End, Middlesex, England Nursemaid
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Atherton Rd (Lynton House) Census Place West Ham, Essex, England Family History Library Film 1341411 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1721 / 47 Page Number 23
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Barbara
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24 Feb 2011 01:14 |
Thanks Ann, That is the correct family but I can't find them in 1861 or 1871. I am wondering if there maybe some missing census records for Mile End area in those census???
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24 Feb 2011 01:13 |
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Thomas Joseph James England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 14 Aug 1808 residence: London, England parents: Samuel James, Charlotte record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Thomas Joseph James gender: Male baptism/christening date: 27 Aug 1809 baptism/christening place: SAINT LUKE OLD STREET,FINSBURY,LONDON,ENGLAND birth date: 14 Aug 1808 father's name: Samuel James mother's name: Charlotte indexing project (batch) number: C02069-3 system origin: England-ODM source film number:
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24 Feb 2011 01:09 |
Thomas James England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1835 — St Pancras residence: Leyton Low, Essex, England spouse: Olivia James record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Thomas James age: 46 gender: Male birth year: 1835 birthplace: St Pancras relationship to head of household: Head marital condition: Married profession / occupation: Bricklayer address: 2 Maud Cottage census place: Leyton Low, Essex, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341415 the national archives reference: RG11 piece / folio: 1727 / 25 page number:
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24 Feb 2011 00:40 |
Hi again, I am now trying to locate the son of Thomas Joseph James (1808). He is also a Thomas Joseph James born Dec 1834 at St Pancras. He is missing from 1861 and 1871 census. I have found him in 1841/51/81/91 and he died 1895 in Essex. Below is him in 1851 with his father and brother:
1851 England Census about Thomas James Name: Thomas James Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relation: Head Gender: M (Male) Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Limehouse County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
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Occupation: Bricklayer
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Stepney Sub-registration district: Limehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 179 Household Members: Name Age Thomas James 43 Thomas James 16 John Willm James 14
Thomas 1834 is also a bricklayer and married Clarinda (there are often varying spellings for her name) Conford in 1856. So in 1861 we should be able to find Thomas, Clarinda and daughter Clarinda and in 1871 there should be Thomas, Clarinda, and children Clarinda and Thomas and I am not sure what other children there may be. The addresses given on the christening records between 1858-1879 are all in the Mile End region.
I just haven't had any success in finding them in those 2 census records. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Regards, Barbara
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