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Harry Brown, Born approx 1887, Military records say living at 10G Peabody Buildings Farringdon Road London in 1916. I think his wifes name may have been Emma. Could someone have a look and see if they could find him please?
Thank You
Elaine O'Hagan

do you have any more clues?

do his military records give an occupation, birth place, marriage date or name any children please?

There is only one page of his military record and it is not vey clear. It just says Harry Brown 29 years 6 months It gives his occupation as a carman,. The only part of the date I can read is 1916.
The address looks like10 G Peabody Buildings but it could be 109.
My Dad who was born in 1919 remembers him as living in Peabody Buildings. He thinks his wifes name was Emma.( Aunt Em) He remembers 2 cousins Joseph and George, but we can't be sure when they were born.
Thanks
Elaine

Elaine, did you find his WW1 record on Ancestry? If so, you need to go backwards throught the images, not forward as usual.

The image that comes up then shows his wife as Kate Minnie Langrish? Married 2/1/1909. Three children listed: Kathleen Minnie, Ada Doris and Evelyn Josephine.

Could be the family Potty listed the record for?

BROWN, Harry Head Married M 24 1887 Carman Isleham Cambs VIEW
BROWN, Minnie Wife Married
2 years F 21 1890 Lambeth London VIEW
BROWN, Kathleen Daughter F 1 1910 Lambeth London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1948 Reference:
RG14PN1948 RG78PN69 RD25 SD1 ED6 SN84

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Lambeth Church Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Lambeth

Address:
30 Howley Place Lambeth SE County:

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about Harry Brown
Name: Harry Brown
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Age at enlistment: 29
Residence: 10 G Peaboog Buidlings, Farringdon Road E C
Document Year: 1916
Regiment Name: Army Service Corps (Horse Transport)
Number of images: 3

carman

I can find dozens of Harry Browns in the Census but can't be sure which one he is.
His Father was Henry Brown and his mother Mary Ann. He had a brother called Joseph, my Grandfather. There was possibly a sister. I can't find a family on the 1901 census that fits my father and Uncles memories of them.
On his military record My Grandfather gave his address as 38 Westcott Street, in Southwark.
Is it possible to trace that address on the 1911 census?
I will have another look at the military record.

Thank you
Elaine

BROWN, Harry Head Married M 24 1887 Carman Isleham Cambs VIEW
BROWN, Minnie Wife Married
2 years F 21 1890 Lambeth London VIEW
BROWN, Kathleen Daughter F 1 1910 Lambeth London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1948 Reference:
RG14PN1948 RG78PN69 RD25 SD1 ED6 SN84

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Lambeth Church Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Lambeth

Address:
30 Howley Place Lambeth SE

ada doris 1911
evelyn josephine 1913

Bavins, Collins and Rolls are the 3 families at 38 Westcott Street in 1911.

The 1911 Harry Brown has parents William and Elizabeth in 1891 so presumably the wrong family

Elaine - Do you know the birth year/ cert of your grandfather Joseph and where he was born??

Kay

When and where was Joseph born?
Be sceptical about memories - they are often inaccurate. My father's recollection of where his father was born was way out and my aunt's memories of her father telling her he served on the Cutty Sark!

When and where was your grandfather Joseph born so we can try and trace Harry?

Hi Thank you all so much.
I am trying to trace Joseph Brown my Grandfather, but have almost given up hope. I thought if I could find his brother Harry I might find him through that. My Grandfather names him on his Militery Records as being Older and in the Royal Irish Rangers, but I can't find a Harry in the Royal Irish
I can find my Grandfathers Military record it gives his Mother Mary Ann as next of kin living at Westcott St, but she isn't there on the 1901 census and apparently not on the 1911 census. He lied about his age on the military records to serve in the Boer War, he was around 14 then. His Marriage cert in 1912 gives his age as 28 so around 1984.
I want to buy his birth cert but there are so many Josephs I can't be sure which he is.
The Harry I found isn't the right one. Apparently there were 2 Peabody Buildings, My Uncle lived in the ones on RedCross Street.
Their Father was Henry and their Mother Mary Ann.
Thank You
Elaine

what address does your grandfather give on his 1912 marriage cert please?

Have you considered that Harry might actually have been a pet name for Henry?

When did Joseph join the Army?

Presumably the marriage cert also lists Joseph's father's occupation. Was Joseph in the miltary when he married or does the marriage cert list another occupation?

Who did Joseph marry in 1912?

ns, 1754-1921 Results
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Sophia Annie Noble
Name: Sophia Annie Noble 49 Alice St. general dealer
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Spouse Name: Joseph Brown 3 Alice St ,Porter
Spouse Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1912
Parish: St Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Noble gen dealer
Spouse Father Name: Henry Brown deceased Porter

wit George Noble , younger brother
Sophia Elizabeth Green

Neither names appear at those addresses in Alice Street Bermondsey in 1911

His address when he got married was 3 Alice Street. He was married at St Mary Magdalin, 25/12/1912. He gives his Father as Henry Deceased, A Porter. His occupation was a Carman but I think that can also mean a Costermonger.
His Address in 1916 when he rejoined the army was 28 Law Street.
On 25th April 1901 he gave his age as 18 years 5 months, Occupation Carman, Born in Southwark, co of Surrey.
He gives his next of kin as his mother Mary Ann Brown, and his Elder brother Harry Brown, Royal Irish Regiment.
There is another address on his discharge document in 1919 of 3 Lansdowne Place but no address for when he joined.
Because his Fathers name was Henry we did think Harry might be Henry but thought we would exhaust the Harry's first.
Thank you for your help.
Elaine