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Ah I see, yes Ginny, and I had missed the Welsh connection.

Nothing on immigration, perhaps they were in another state first (or NZ?)

Where do the Pikes fit in?

And again Im thinking out loud here....


Marriages Jun 1852 (>99%)
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Thomas Margaret Crickhowell 11b 222
Thomas Phillip Crickhowell 11b 222



I think the only way to go now is to order the death cert for Philip Gunter Thomas. Oz certs have so much more info on them than the UK ones

I'll leave it with you Joyce

Joyce this is me thinking out loud so dont take this census as defo'


1841 Wales Census
about Phillip Thomas
Name: Phillip Thomas
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Gender: Male
Where born: Pembrokeshire, Wales

Civil parish: Begelly
Hundred: Narberth
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Narberth
Sub-registration district: Begelly
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Name

John Thomas 55 COLLIER
Jemima Thomas 50
Jemima Thomas 20
Elizabeth Thomas 20
Ann Thomas 15
John Thomas 15
Phillip Thomas 14
William Thomas 10
George Thomas 6


I just thought the Jemima name might indicate a connection and give us a lead?


And this might be the brothers

1851 Wales Census
about Phillip Thomas
Name: Phillip Thomas
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Woodden, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Aberystruth
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Abergavenny
Sub-registration district: Blaenavon
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 157
Household Members: Name Age
Adam Staley 56
Mary Ann Staley 52
Martha Staley 13

Phillip Thomas 22 MINER
William Thomas 18 MINER

Youre right Cherilyn it wasnt but it looks like it was mentioned on the death of;

Jemima Guhter Thomas


There is a tree on Ancestry that has Philip Gunter Thomas born in 1828 Pembrokeshire Wales and has the same details as I have posted

Joyce it might be worth contacting that tree owner

Ive had a look at the shipping records but they are a bit hit and miss, dont know if you could spot anything Cherilyn?

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Note father's death may be this one (b. c1825):


Surname: THOMAS
Given Names: Philip
Event: D
Father: William
Mother: Jane UNKNOWN
Age: 48
Birth Place: CORN
Year: 1873
Reg Number: 3227

Gunter as middle name not mentioned in any of the chn's births.

Thanks for that. It was a bit more for the family I did have. Margaret Pike, Norman Pike comes in some where on the Thomas side. They would be from Victoria, Australia.
Sorry I have not got much to go on.
Best wishes
Joyce



Can you tell us where you have made the connection with Pike and Thompson. Also do you have any other on Pike..DOB place of birth etc....


How are Norman and Margaret related?


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Thanks for your effects.
Joyce

Thanks for your time and effort.
That will give some more family.
Thanks once again
Joyce

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Jno Thomas
Name: Jno Thomas
Death Place: Geelong, Victoria
Age: 64
Father's Name: Thomas Phillip
Mother's Name: Margt Thomas
Registration Year: 1918
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 9005

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1949
about William Walter Thomas
Name: William Walter Thomas
Spouse Name: Annie Mcglashan Anderson
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1884
Registration Number: 535


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Wm Walt Thomas
Name: Wm Walt Thomas
Death Place: Camperdown, Victoria
Age: 67
Father's Name: Phillip Thomas
Mother's Name: Unknown Margret
Registration Year: 1925
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 12728


Cant find a match strong enough for Mary

Thanks for the info on Jemimas but is there any on William and Mary Thomas.
Hope you can help.
Thanks once again.
Joyce

Joyce

Read through the info. Jemimas death is posted and she died with her family name so no she didnt marry

Thanks you for adding members to my family. I would like to known if Jemima Thomas Registration Year: 1857. William Walter Thomas Registration Year: 1858. Mary Ann Thomas Registration Year: 1860.(Australia Birth Index) Did they get Married and have children.
I hope you can help.
Joyce

The fathers death

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Philip Gunter Thomas Name: Philip Gunter Thomas
Death Place: Rew, Victoria
Age: 68
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 6423

And mother?


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Margt Thomas Name: Margt Thomas
Death Place: Doncaster, Victoria
Age: 73
Father's Name: Craig
Mother's Name: Margt Henry
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 9383

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Thomas Thomas Name: Thomas Thomas
Father's Name: Phillip Thomas
Mother's Name: Margaret Thomas
Birth Place: Belfast, Victoria
Registration Year: 1854
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 4898

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Mary Ann Thomas Name: Mary Ann Thomas
Father's Name: Philip Thomas
Mother's Name: Margaret Thomas
Birth Place: Belfast, Victoria
Registration Year: 1860
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 20524

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about William Walter Thomas Name: William Walter Thomas
Father's Name: Philip Thomas
Mother's Name: Margaret Thomas
Birth Place: Belfast, Victoria
Registration Year: 1858
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 18072

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Jemima Thomas Name: Jemima Thomas
Father's Name: Philip Thomas
Mother's Name: Margaret Thomas
Birth Place: Belfast, Victoria
Registration Year: 1857
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 6778


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
about Jemima Guhter Thomas Name: Jemima Guhter Thomas
Death Place: Mildura, Victoria
Age: 37
Father's Name: Philip
Mother's Name: Margt Thomas
Registration Year: 1894
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 6992

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about John Thomas Name: John Thomas
Father's Name: Phillip Thomas
Mother's Name: Margaret Thomas
Birth Place: Belfast, Victoria
Registration Year: 1854
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 4897

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
about Elizabeth Mary Thomas Name: Elizabeth Mary Thomas
Father's Name: Phillip Thomas
Mother's Name: Margaret Thomas
Birth Place: Emerald Hill, Victoria
Registration Year: 1854
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 4856