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Chris - yes, Susan Gertrude is my Gt Grandmother
Choccy - 1891 census - I'd missed that a Stepfather and cousin was listed. On 1911 census there is a Katherine Sarah but she is listed as daughter not a cousin and down as King not Dacres. I'm wondering if this is the same family or not because I'd always had Emma c. 1852 down as being born in Islington but then on 1911 census there is an Emma (with similar details/family) but down as being born in Bristol
All very confusing ... I'm new to this ... and am finding this one a bit of a tangle :-)
Michelle
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Name: Katherine Sarah King
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1876
Baptism Date: 3 Dec 1876
Father's Name: George King
Mother's Name: Emma King
Parish or Poor Law Union: Tollington Park St Mark
Borough: Islington
34 Andover Rd, George is a labourer
The baptism for Amy is listed as RING
Emma Celia King baptised in 1882
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Hi Chris - me for breakfast too
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You definitely need a birth certificate.
The one posted for Susan looks the only likely one for your great grandmother.
I was trying to find Celica-1883, is this correct for year (I have tried different spellings)?
If the 1911 census is correct, they married 1869/1870.
Thanks
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~~~~~~~waves to Choccy, can't see a birth for Katherine Dacres, Hampshire.
(be back soon, must get breakfast!)
Chris :)
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posting for reference -
1891
KING, George Head Married M 49 1842 General Labourer
Islington
London VIEW
KING, Emma Wife Married F 39 1852
Bristol
Somersetshire VIEW
KING, Amy Daughter Single F 17 1874 Domestic Servant
Islington
London VIEW
KING, George Son Single M 15 1876 Railway Van Boy
Islington
London VIEW
KING, Emma Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Islington
London VIEW
KING, Susan Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Islington
London VIEW
KING, Lily Daughter F 3 1888 Scholar
Islington
London VIEW
KING, Henry Son M 2 1889
Islington
London VIEW
HEADLY, Thomas Stepfather Widower M 67 1824 Living On Own Means
Bristol
Somersetshire VIEW
DACRES, Kate Cousin F 13 1878 Scholar
Hound
Hampshire VIEW
KING, Charles Son M 12 1879 Scholar
Islington
London VIEW
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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
148 Folio:
88 Page:
38
Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Upper Holloway Enumeration District:
52 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mark
Civil Parish:
Islington Municipal Borough:
Address:
22, Andover Road, Islington, London County:
London
1901
KING, George Head Married M 59 1842 General Labourer
Islington
London VIEW
KING, Emma Wife Married F 49 1852
Islington
London VIEW
KING, Charles Son Single M 22 1879 General Labourer
Islington
London VIEW
KING, Celia Daughter Single F 18 1883 Envelope Folder
Islington
London VIEW
KING, Susan Daughter Single F 16 1885 Envelope Folder
Islington
London VIEW
KING, Lilian Daughter Single F 13 1888 Envelope Folder
Islington
London VIEW
KING, Henry Son Single M 12 1889
Islington
London VIEW
KING, Frank Son Single M 10 1891
Islington
London VIEW
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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
167 Folio:
69 Page:
25
Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Upper Holloway Enumeration District:
54 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Marks
Civil Parish:
Islington Municipal Borough:
Address:
19, Andover Road, Islington County:
London
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Births Sep 1885 (>99%)
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King Susan Gertrude Islington 1b 233
Is this your Gt. Grandmother?...
Name: Susan Gertrude King
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1885
Baptism Date: 25 Oct 1885
Father's Name: George Charles King
Mother's Name: Emma Jane King
Parish or Poor Law Union: Tollington Park St Mark
Borough: Islington
(birthdate on image 25th July, fathers occ. Masons labourer)
Chris :)
You need the Birth cert. to find out mothers maiden name...
Marriages Mar 1872 (>99%)
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King George Charles Islington 1b 286
Russell Ellen Islington 1b 286
Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%)
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King George Charles Pancras 1b 213
Tate Lydia Pancras 1b 213
These are two marriages, but don't seem to add up?.
1891 (for reference)
KING, George Head Married M 49 1842 General Labourer
Islington
London
KING, Emma Wife Married F 39 1852
Bristol
Somersetshire
KING, Amy Daughter Single F 17 1874 Domestic Servant
Islington
London
KING, George Son Single M 15 1876 Railway Van Boy
Islington
London
KING, Emma Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Islington
London
KING, Susan Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Islington
London
KING, Lily Daughter F 3 1888 Scholar
Islington
London
KING, Henry Son M 2 1889
Islington
London
HEADLY, Thomas Stepfather Widower M 67 1824 Living On Own Means
Bristol
Somersetshire
DACRES, Kate Cousin F 13 1878 Scholar
Hound
Hampshire
KING, Charles Son M 12 1879 Scholar
Islington
London
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
148 Folio:
88 Page:
38
Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Upper Holloway Enumeration District:
52 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mark
Civil Parish:
Islington Municipal Borough:
Address:
22, Andover Road, Islington, London County:
London
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I've also found some information on the 1911 census which I'm uncertain about - so if any GR experts could help clarify that would be fantastic.
1911 census
Emma Jane King - age 59 - Head - Widow - 14 children/9 living - monthly nurse - born; Bristol, Somerset
Katherine Sarah - age 34 - daughter - trained nurse - born; middlesex
Henry Donald - age 22 - son - butcher
Frank Leslie - age 20 - son - fish porter
Living: 231 Hornsey Road, Upper Holloway, Islington
Is this our Emma King? and
Who is Katherine Sarah who has all of a sudden appeared?
Is this our Henry and Frank as a Henry and Frank of same ages also appear on other 1911 census information (see below)?
1911 census
Frank King - age 19 - Private Royal Fusiliers
Henry King - age 21 - Private "F" COY, 2nd Bn. The Welch Regt
Michelle
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Hi
Any information prior to 1891 census gratefully received
George King - Born c1842 married to:
Emma (don't know maiden name) - Born c1852
Children: Amy-1874, George-1876, Charles-1879, Emma-1881, Celica-1883, Susan-1885-1949, Lilian-1888, Henry-1889, Frank-1891
The family have been identified on the census for 1891 and 1901 but haven't been able to find them on the 1881 or anything before then. It appears that they were in the Islington, London area most of their lives as they were all born in that area
Susan (1885-1949) is my Great Grandmother.
Many thanks,
Michelle
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