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Re Kathleen/ Catherine...my gt aunt was known as Kathleen to all the family but is down on the census' ( and birth) as Catherine...so it's worth considering.

Especially with an Irish accent.

Not sure that the difference is very significant - might not be her obviously, but if you think how it sounds, it's hard to distinguish the two names, so I wouldn't dismiss it just on that basis.

EDIT crossed posts there!

Jan

Didn't go over to the next page so didn't see you reply, sorry. Thanks Jan

Shame she is down as catherine rather than Kathleen but will keep an open mind.

Problem is, I am not the best person to advise you really. Will put out a plea for assistance!
Jan

Just noticed she's down as Catherine. Maybe not so good after all. Getting over excited.

Like I said - it feels right!! Will pursue this for sure. (Now I'm sounding Irish!) So far I've had 3 different spellings of her name. Father's birth cert says she was Brian. His brother's cert she's down as Bryan and now you've thrown this into the mix! Oh, what fun.

Trouble is, I guess the spelling is down to the census takers interpretation. I will not give up!

Well worth looking into. Thanks Jan. Not a spelling I've come across so far. Will have a good look. This feels GOOD!!!

That 1901 might be them you know - "Catherine" is a laundry washer, same as May in 1911.

Have tried Kathleen (the mother) and May under Brian and O'Brian but nothing.
Have you ever heard a more Irish name than Kathleen O'Brian? I don't think so.............but can't find anything. I'm not even searching for just Co Tyrone but a general search. This is so frustrating.

Another long shot!

1901 England Census

Name: May Braen
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Catherine Braen
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Acton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alban the Martyr
Town: Acton
County/Island: Middlesex

Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Acton

Catherine Braen 46 Where born: Ireland
Maud Braen 19
May Braen 12

Thanks Jan
Have tried all sorts. Getting desperate!
Will try the above.
Thanks

Very long shot:

Births Dec 1893 (>99%)
O'Brian May St. Giles 1b 604

National archives have transcriptions of 1901 and 1911 Irish census:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

I don't know about irish research otherwise. Just one thought - have you tried O'Brian?

Jan

Not sure where to head for Irish records. Could you point the way please?
M

I thought the young Kathleen in the 1901 might be her sister.
M

MAY BRIAN is the missing one. Can't find her birth, marriage to my Grandfather Gordon Simmonds (1917/18ish) siblings or Census records for 1901.
According to 1911 census her mother comes from Ireland (anecdotal info we had from family) - it should read Co Tyrone Ireland Five Mile Town!

Have you tried Irish 1901 just in case they are over there?

So, what are you actually looking for? I'll put 1911 for info, I know you have this:

BRIAN, Kathleen Head Married
31 years F 60 1851 Tyrane Island Fire Mile VIEW
BRIAN, May Daughter Single F 21 1890 Laundry Waker Ironer Middlesex London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6966 Reference:
RG14PN6966 RG78PN345 RD128 SD6 ED15 SN16

Registration District:
Brentford Sub District:
Acton Enumeration District:
15 Parish:
Acton

Address:
214 Acton Lane County:
Middlesex