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Good afternoon Erin, I too look at the 1907 street directory, but if they where living with another family at that time, only the person who name on the rent book gets listed. Now I know part of Gracehill street is missing from the 1911 census for that area.
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Afternoon Girls,
Unfortunately, as i said in my original " Thread", Celia, who would be Patrick and Cath's Grand daughter, if we're on the right track, was only about 3 when she and her two sisters were sent to England. So her information is sketchy at best.
Her Mum, Elizabeth, married Fred in Holywood, 1922, but i assumed this was because he was probably stationed at the barracks there, not where she was living?
Had another trawl thru the English Census's last night, but couldn't find a suitable fit. A couple of Patrick Snr/ Jnr's, but none with an Elizabeth of an appropriate age!
If Pat & Cath aren't in Ireland, England, or the US, your guess is as good as mine!!
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Michael...Given patrick states he was a Dock worker (1901) I was after wondering if he hadn't gone to Glasgow but will need to wait until next month to check out 1911 Scottish Census...
I have also checked through Co.Antrim and Down for any Keenan male b England other than Patrick..nothing...
Have you condsidered that maybe Eliz.was Patricks Aunt rather than sister... his children/grandchildren would probably all refer to her as "Auntie"...We never used eg "Great Aunt Kate" when referring to my parents Aunts/Uncles...
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Erin/ Maura
You've both done stirling work, thank-you!!
Yes, would make sense ref. my inability to find them together in England.
There are 4 possible Pats b.1868+/- 2 in the 1871 Census, my 2 favourites are:-
DUNN, Jeremiah Head M 46 1825 Ireland VIEW
DUNN, Catherine Wife F 45 1826 Ireland VIEW
KEENAN, Rose Daughter F 23 1848 Ireland VIEW
KEENAN, Patrick Son-In-Law M 23 1848 Ireland VIEW
KEENAN, Patrick Grandson M 1 1870 Lancashire VIEW *****
DUNN, Elizabeth Daughter F 17 1854 Lancashire VIEW
DUNN, William Son M 12 1859 Shropshire VIEW
DUNN, John Son M 10 1861 Shropshire VIEW
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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
4133 Folio:
93 Page:
40
Registration District:
Haslingden Sub District:
Newchurch Enumeration District:
4 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish:
Newchurch Municipal Borough:
Address:
Foundry Street, Newchurch, Bacup County:
Lancashire
And:-
KEENAN, Patrick Head M 30 1841 Ireland VIEW
KEENAN, Elizabeth Wife F 30 1841 Ireland VIEW
KEENAN, John Son M 7 1864 County Durham VIEW
KEENAN, Francis Son M 4 1867 County Durham VIEW
KEENAN, Patrick Son M 2 1869 County Durham VIEW
KEENAN, Mary Daughter F 0 1871 County Durham VIEW
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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
5050 Folio:
79 Page:
25
Registration District:
Gateshead Sub District:
Heworth Enumeration District:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish:
Heworth Municipal Borough:
Address:
Lammas Square, Heworth County:
Durham
Any thoughts???
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P.S.
Add to my particular favourite, the 1st Family :-
Rose called Rosa in 1881, born in Kildare. Also in 1881, more children, Thomas 1874 Durham.
John 1876 Whitworth, Lancs.
William 1878 Shawforth, Lancs.
Catherine 1879 Shawforth, Lancs.
Whole Family disappear for the 1891 Census? Coincidence??
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Sorry to burst your bubble Michael but the first family are still there in 1891
Name: Patrick Keenan
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Patrick Keenan
Mother's Name: Rose A Keenan
Gender: Male
Where born: Bacup, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Wardleworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Rochdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Registration district: Rochdale
Sub-registration district: Wardleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick Keenan 41
Rose A Keenan 40
Patrick Keenan 21
Thomas Keenan 18
John Keenan 15
William Keenan 13
Katie Keenan 11
Jerome Keenan 8
Stephen Keenan 8
James Keenan 6
Mary Keenan 4
Edward Keenan 7/12
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Michael...Just looking around (again) on the 1901/1911 Census...Were the Mc Anally's/McNally's living Nos.4 and 31.1 Glenpark St. related in anyway to Catherine Keenan McNally....?
I was having a look to see if Patrick had ended up living with or near any McNally's and found Thomas (64 widow) living 31.1 with daughter Teresa ...
No 4 is a Sarah 40 widow with daughters Eliz.7 and Mgt Anne 1....cannot find any of them on the 1911.
Possible Sarah remarried but cannot find any children/young goirls matching Eliz.Teresa or Mgt anne....
There is a death for a Thomas McAnally 1903/4 (can't recall) which would fit his
age on the Census...
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Hi Erin,
Just had a look at Thomas at 31.1, 1901 Census. If his live-in Daughter is only 15, he must be a good candidate for Catherine's Dad, but i have no cross-ref info. Pat & Cath's MC, in1890, has them both at the same address.
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Erin, my petal,
I know your v.very busy, but have you had a chance to look for Patrick & his disappearing Family in the 1911 Scottish Census yet?
Michael.
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