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Trying to get hold of my mother and will try to get more info and post asap. :)

I don't know I'm sorry. But I know that if they're buried anywhere it will be in South Crosland, does that help?

Christine, sorry I forgot to respond. After going down the route of my Grandmas Cousin, Mabel Lunn I found her parents, Siblings to Mary Ellen and the ages seem to match up with the census and marriage year. Address in the village also seems to fit, all of which I'm going to check with my mum. There are very strong ties with South Crosland.

Suzanne

Please answer the question about the deaths of these people...........

sorry, that had spaces when I copied it, then I had to go to bed! I'm going to
I'm going to cross reference and make sure they match.

It's funny, but when you ask family the right questions, suddenly they're there with all the info! Oh yes, they lived there, didn"t I tell you that?' etc etc. 'oh they had that farm on such a such road!" Which is irritating. I am completely stuck with the Sykes' though, until I interogate my mother again, so if she can't come up with more then I will have to go down the marriage certificate route there. I'm going to question her again this weekend.

What I meant by researching as far as I can then deciding on the certificate, I meant when I get to a dead end, such as with the Sykes, but also i've found that if I take another route, with another sibling, sometimes the missing people turn up. ;)

Janey, you helped me track down Gerald Bamforth the other night. I called my uncle to see if he wanted me to go any further and make contact. Suddenly I get all these stories about what a horrible man he was, and no he didn't want to know! Nowt so queer as folk!!

Suzanne said earlier that she was Mary Ellen............

Does your mother know Suzanne when and where George and Mary E died? Also, do we know Mary's second name? My guess is that it was either Mary Ellen or Mary Elizabeth.

On the same page.....not necessarily related. Sykes is such a common name in Huddersfield.....and you don't even know yet where - or when - George was born

Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
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Sykes George Huddersfield 9a 272
Sykes Herbert Huddersfield 9a 272
Sykes Tom Huddersfield 9a 272
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The above is only an example of why we are advising you to purchase AT LEAST the marriage cert...........as long as you are 100% sure it is for Winfired's parents

1901 in a more comprehensible format

Name: Wright Lunn
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jemima Lunn
Gender: Male
Where born: Meltham, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: South Crosland
Ecclesiastical parish: South Crosland Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Honley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Wright Lunn 50 Farmer & Quarryman
Jemima Lunn 46
Ann Lunn 20
Norman Lunn 19
Mary E Lunn 8

Wife and children born S Crosland

Well, what we are all trying to say is:

You can follow the plan of researching as much as you can, and some day find you have researched yourself a couple of centuries into the past down a completely false trail, if you aren't lucky.

If you're satisfied with what you've found -- and if you've done the cross-checking to make sure the people you are looking at aren't otherwise accounted for, for instance in other marriages/deaths etc. -- then you feel on solid ground. It's just that many of us have had things turn out not at all as we expected them. ;)

I tried again to see what that 1901 census might be saying, but I just lose the will to live after one line, sorry.

If even the individuals are separated by a couple of spaces, even without deleting all the completely useless repetitive bumph from each one, it is at least possible to see what's there ...

At some point I might go down the route of certificates, but currently can't afford the expense. my plan is to research as much as I can and then make that decision. One side of my family was so easy to track I did it in one evening. There were 5 generations that never moved from Slaithwaite and all the censuses fit like a dream.... if only they were all so easy! I'm pretty sure South Crosland is where the Lunns/Sykes hailed from for a few generations...

Thanks for your help tonight everyone!

The birth certificate will give you the parents' full names, and then you can find their marriage and get that certificate to find their ages and fathers' names.

If you're absolutely certain that the Sykes+Lunn marriage you have found is Winifred's parents, you can start there, but you're still missing that bit of certainty that the birth certificate provides.

There are actually a gazillion Sykes-Lunn births in Yorkshire, mainly Huddersfield, after 1911. So there was obviously more than one marriage, which might make it wise to start with the birth certificate.


edit -- your post with that census transcription intervened ... I'm one who flatly refuses to plough my way through the dense unbroken mass of pixels produced by unedited copying and pasting from records at this website. ;)

It is Lunn. I thought the same, it's just been transcribed wrong. Annoying, but at least it's correct on some.

Winifred's birth certificate is the key to all this then? What will it give me that I don't already have? Sorry if I sound clueless but surely it just gives DOB, place and parents names, and mdn name?

Actually, on Ancestry it comes up as Lunn and when you look at the actual page it's a bit smudged but looks more like Lunn.

The birth cert is VITAL though Suzanne.

She's definitely a Lunn, not a Lund, it's a typo on the records. Honestly! Unless my mother has it wrong.... I'll give her a ticking off if she has!!!!

See married my lovely grandad David Dodson:

Name David Dodson
Year of Marriage 1937
Quarter of Marriage Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Huddersfield
Registration County Yorkshire
Spouse's Surname Sykes
Volume Number 9A
Volume Page 1000

Spouse Match: David DODSON married Winifred SYKES
Name Winifred Sykes
Year of Marriage 1937
Quarter of Marriage Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Huddersfield
Registration County Yorkshire
Spouse's Surname Dodson
Volume Number 9A
Volume Page 1000

www.gro.gov.uk

£9.25 inclusive of postage

Suzanne.....a little tip...

Even one letter can make a huge difference........it's vital to check.

The difference between Lunn and Lund could have sent you on a wild goose chase.........

that's the one, must be a typo!

Christine, this is my Grandma for sure:

Name Winifred Sykes
Year of Registration 1917
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Huddersfield
Registration County Yorkshire
Mother's maiden name Lunn
Volume Number 9A
Volume Page 336

Oh well, thanks all v much for looking. How do I go about getting a certificate?

Ahhhhh is this your grandmother? MMN LUND?

Births Jun 1917
Sykes Winifred Lund Huddersfield 9a 336

You seem to have the wrong surname for Winifred's mother..........IF this is her birth

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
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Sykes Winifred Lund Huddersfield 9a 336

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But there isn't a marriage for George Sykes to LUND.

It's possible that the wife had been married before.......this was during WW1......so her name when marrying would not have been Lund..........

I think you are going to have to start from scratch on this one.............Winifred's birth cert would seem essential