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ALVARO ARCHIBALD H KIBBLE was born in 1894.

In the 1901 Census, he is living with his Grandmother Mary Louisa Kibble - although his first names have been turned around.

Please can someone find him in the 1911 Census? I have tried some permutations but I'm not very good with the 1911 yet.

Many thanks.

Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%)
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KIBBLE Mary Louisa 69 Chorlton 8c 600


So obviously not looking for him with his grandmother

Does the initial of H stand for Henry?


Army Pension Record
Name: Archibald Henry Kibble
Document Year: 1919
Regimental Number: 337199
Regiment Name: Royal Army Medical Corps
Number of images: 16

Yup, knew about his grandmama's death - RIP.

The 'H' almost certainly stands for 'Hervey', but not 100% on that one. And just for good measure, Hervey often gets misheard/mistranscribed in our family . . .

Thanks, GB!

Is this his marriage - Liz


MarriageFinder™: Archibald H Kibble married May G Mouat

Name: KIBBLE, Archibald H
Registration District: Help Toxteth Park
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Mouat
Volume No: Help 8B
Page No: Help 346

Name: MOUAT, May G
Registration District: Toxteth Park
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Kibble
Volume No: 8B
Page No: 346

Yes I think that is the marriage as it matches the nest of kin on Pension Records

Mrs M G Kibble
179 North Hill (Mill ?) St, Liverpool

Sorry - can't find him on the l9ll, but it looks as if Mary died between census. On his birth reg. his name is give as Alvano.
Liz


Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%)
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KIBBLE Mary Louisa 69 Chorlton 8c 600

Glitter Baby, you are a whizz!

Better than the transcribers of his Army pension record who have written his middle name as 'Henry', when it is indeed clearly HERVEY.

Whoopee.

Many thanks to all.

Mary Louisa Kibble
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth:
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence:
parents:
spouse: Hervey Kibble
child: Louis Hervey Kibble
marriage:

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Louis Hervey Kibble
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 09 May 1868
baptism/christening place: St. John the Baptist's Church, Lancashire, Hulme (near Manchester)
father's name: Hervey Kibble
mother's name: Mary Louisa Kibble
indexing project (batch) number: I01909-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 2113135

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Archilbald Hervey Kibble
Name: Archilbald Hervey Kibble
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1894
Death Registration Month/Year: 1969
Registration district: Liverpool North
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 979

Thank you to one and all. This has been a fascinating journey.

Now, can anyone find him please on the 1911?

He is probably calling himself ARCHIBALD HERVEY KIBBLE, without the 'Alvaro'.

This will be the last piece of the jigsaw.

Tried everything I can think of for searching the 1911 census but not found him

Thanks again.

But he must be in the UK because he did not sign up for WWI until 1914.

He is not living with his birth mother, Jessie M Kibble, and her Portuguese lover.

He is not living with his lonesome father.

He was born in 1894, so we are looking for a seventeen year old lad. Most likely places would be Manchester or Liverpool.

Please can sks keep looking for me?

I may not get back to this tonight, but will be on again tomorrow.

Thank you again.

I can't even find May G Mouat on any census records ,she was born 28/9/1888 Toxteth Park middle name Gifford and died 1970.

Archibald worked as chemist assistant for Herbert Taylor St Martins Lane Liscard Cheshire before he joined the army,even tried to find him in 1911 no luck as i don't know what age Herbert would have been.

Its sooooooo annoying.

Maryb

Hello again, everybody.

I know that sks out there will be so thrilled when they have cracked this case for me!

Thank you Mary for your input. It makes it all the more frustrating that neither him nor her are to be found - BUT I KNOW THEY'RE OUT THERE.

I'm standing by . . .

Thank you in advance.

You kind and clever lot out there have never let me down yet - in fact, I am forever grateful to many of you for helping me out when I was grazing my knees on a very steep learning curve.

Now then - we can't let this one get away either. I know that both individuals have got 'odd' surnames which have probably baffled the 1911 transcribers, but they're both there somewhere.

I'll be on here until about midnight.

I've just spent another head scratching half hour trying to find either of these elusive people on the 1911.

I'm not very good on the 1911 unless they're VERY straightforward, so I'm relying on GR now, please!

1901 I think this might be May

Name: Mary Mouat
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Joan Mouat
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 288
Household Members: Name Age
Joan Mouat 35
Isabella Mouat 16
Mary Mouat 12
Robina Mouat 5
Margaret Spencer 49
Mary E Spencer 13




1891?
Name: Mary Monan
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Joan Monan
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Philemon
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joan Monan 35
Isabella Monan 6
Mary Monan 2
Hughes 48
Jones 44

Joan is listed as married

Will do a name correction for 1891 as it is Mouat on image

1911 ?
MONAT, Joan Head Married
30 years F 55 1856 Unst Shetland Resident VIEW
MONAT, Isabella Daughter Single F 25 1886 Manageress Confectioners Toxteth Park Liverpool Lancs VIEW
MONAT, May Daughter Single F 22 1889 Assistant Confectioners Toxteth Park Liverpool Lancs VIEW
MONAT, Robina Daughter Single F 16 1895 Apprentice Drapers Toxteth Park Liverpool Lancs VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22254 Reference:
RG14PN22254 RG78PN1316 RD454 SD3 ED3 SN58

Registration District:
Toxteth Park Sub District:
Toxteth Park Central Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Toxteth Park

Address:
187 North - Hill St Liverpool S




Will do a name correction as it is Mouat on image

If GBs Joan is correct as it looks to be

Deaths Mar 1918 (>99%)
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Mouat Joan S 61 Toxteth P. 8b 248

might have clue on death cert, informant?