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You kind and clever lot out there have never let me down yet - in fact, I am forever grateful to many of you for helping me out when I was grazing my knees on a very steep learning curve.

Now then - we can't let this one get away either. I know that both individuals have got 'odd' surnames which have probably baffled the 1911 transcribers, but they're both there somewhere.

I'll be on here until about midnight.

Hello again, everybody.

I know that sks out there will be so thrilled when they have cracked this case for me!

Thank you Mary for your input. It makes it all the more frustrating that neither him nor her are to be found - BUT I KNOW THEY'RE OUT THERE.

I'm standing by . . .

Thank you in advance.

I can't even find May G Mouat on any census records ,she was born 28/9/1888 Toxteth Park middle name Gifford and died 1970.

Archibald worked as chemist assistant for Herbert Taylor St Martins Lane Liscard Cheshire before he joined the army,even tried to find him in 1911 no luck as i don't know what age Herbert would have been.

Its sooooooo annoying.

Maryb

Thanks again.

But he must be in the UK because he did not sign up for WWI until 1914.

He is not living with his birth mother, Jessie M Kibble, and her Portuguese lover.

He is not living with his lonesome father.

He was born in 1894, so we are looking for a seventeen year old lad. Most likely places would be Manchester or Liverpool.

Please can sks keep looking for me?

I may not get back to this tonight, but will be on again tomorrow.

Thank you again.

Tried everything I can think of for searching the 1911 census but not found him

Thank you to one and all. This has been a fascinating journey.

Now, can anyone find him please on the 1911?

He is probably calling himself ARCHIBALD HERVEY KIBBLE, without the 'Alvaro'.

This will be the last piece of the jigsaw.

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Archilbald Hervey Kibble
Name: Archilbald Hervey Kibble
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1894
Death Registration Month/Year: 1969
Registration district: Liverpool North
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 979

Mary Louisa Kibble
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth:
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence:
parents:
spouse: Hervey Kibble
child: Louis Hervey Kibble
marriage:

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Louis Hervey Kibble
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 09 May 1868
baptism/christening place: St. John the Baptist's Church, Lancashire, Hulme (near Manchester)
father's name: Hervey Kibble
mother's name: Mary Louisa Kibble
indexing project (batch) number: I01909-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 2113135

Glitter Baby, you are a whizz!

Better than the transcribers of his Army pension record who have written his middle name as 'Henry', when it is indeed clearly HERVEY.

Whoopee.

Many thanks to all.

Sorry - can't find him on the l9ll, but it looks as if Mary died between census. On his birth reg. his name is give as Alvano.
Liz


Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%)
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KIBBLE Mary Louisa 69 Chorlton 8c 600

Yes I think that is the marriage as it matches the nest of kin on Pension Records

Mrs M G Kibble
179 North Hill (Mill ?) St, Liverpool

Is this his marriage - Liz


MarriageFinder™: Archibald H Kibble married May G Mouat

Name: KIBBLE, Archibald H
Registration District: Help Toxteth Park
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Mouat
Volume No: Help 8B
Page No: Help 346

Name: MOUAT, May G
Registration District: Toxteth Park
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Kibble
Volume No: 8B
Page No: 346

Yup, knew about his grandmama's death - RIP.

The 'H' almost certainly stands for 'Hervey', but not 100% on that one. And just for good measure, Hervey often gets misheard/mistranscribed in our family . . .

Thanks, GB!

Does the initial of H stand for Henry?


Army Pension Record
Name: Archibald Henry Kibble
Document Year: 1919
Regimental Number: 337199
Regiment Name: Royal Army Medical Corps
Number of images: 16

Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%)
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KIBBLE Mary Louisa 69 Chorlton 8c 600


So obviously not looking for him with his grandmother

ALVARO ARCHIBALD H KIBBLE was born in 1894.

In the 1901 Census, he is living with his Grandmother Mary Louisa Kibble - although his first names have been turned around.

Please can someone find him in the 1911 Census? I have tried some permutations but I'm not very good with the 1911 yet.

Many thanks.