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A copy of this birth certificate should resolve the issue of Eva's mother Annie's maiden name once and for all:

Births Mar 1881
HENRI Eva Leeds 9b 472

Have you one shred of evidence to connect the wife of John Henri with Robert Gunter?

If so, please share it with us

1901 North leeds D43> 6
John Henry 1848 leeds Vocalist and comedian widow.
John james Henry 1870 Wetherby Manufacturer of ??

Maryb

This looks like Annie in 1871

Name: Annie Henery
[Annie Birch]
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel Birch
Mother's Name: Ann Birch
Gender: Female
Where born: Hunslet, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Wetherby
Ecclesiastical parish: Wetherby St James
Town: Wetherby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wetherby

Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Birch 60
Ann Birch 60
Annie Henery 29
Emma Birch 17
Louisa Birch 14

And 1861.

1861 England Census about Ann Birch
Name: Ann Birch
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel Birch
Mother's Name: Ann Birch
Gender: Female
Where born: Micklethwaite, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: East Keswick
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Wetherby
Sub-registration district: Wetherby
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Birch 50
Ann Birch 50
George Birch 18
Ann Birch 12
Elizabeth Birch 10
Emma Birch 8
Louisa Birch 5

Still no sign of how she could be Annie Gunter.

Christine

Hi Alan, please don't send private messages about the info in threads! Nobody wants to go toggling back and forth from inbox to board, and in the thread, everyone can see the info.


"This is the father of the Colonel and all the children were by his first wife, Fanny Thompson. Jane Mande was his second wife. Her sister is Margaret."


I assume this refers to the Robert Sr in 1841.

1851:

Robert Gunter 67
Jane Gunter 42
Milda Maude Gunter 2
Civil parish: Kensington



We are still missing whatever info it is that ties Annie Henri to any Gunter. This is the most fundamental info, and it would be nice if you would provide it!

1891

Name: Annie Henry
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Where born: Hunslet, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds

Annie Henry 47 - professional singer, married
Eva Henry 10
Ada Henry 5


Her year of birth is consistent, and I'm still not seeing anything to tie her to any Gunter!

1871

Name: Robert Gunter
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane M Gunter
Where born: Earls Court, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Mickelthwaite
Town: Micklethwaite
County/Island: Yorkshire
Registration district: Wetherby

Robert Gunter 39
Jane M Gunter 32
Helen C Gunter 6
Edith M Gunter 4
Hilda M Gunter 2
Cissil A Gunter 1


Where does the information that Annie's name *was* Gunter come from??

The marriage is of an Annie *Birch*.

Could you clear up the questions raised at all?



Births Dec 1869
Henri John James Wetherby 9a 106

But where was the Henri family in 1871? (Possibly abroad, it does happen.)

How you know she was disinherited ?

Her birth date could be wrong, but they look related as John Jas. Henri was born at Wetherby in 1870 when Robert Gunter lived at Wetherby Grange. Perplexed why she should be there if disinherited. Had she been forgiven?

Robert Gunter in 1851

Name: Robert Gunter
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Pupil
Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Putney
County/Island: Surrey


and in 1841:

Robert Gunter 52
Jane Gunter 30
Robert Gunter 9
James Gunter 7
Margaret Mande 28
Civil parish: Kensington


It's conceivable that Robert Sr was the father of an Annie 1843 ... but not Robert Jr. And these people don't seem to be anywhere near Leeds.

There's no such Annie Gunter in the 1851 or 1861 census that I can see.

Marriages Jun 1868
? Birch Annie Leeds 9b 481
Henderson Edward Leeds 9b 481
? Henri John Leeds 9b 481
Smith Ada Louisa Leeds 9b 481

Not seeing a previous Annie Gunter marriage to Birch.


Could you offer any more info at all, Alan?

Unless Annie had been married before, looks like he married Annie Birch

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Marriages Jun 1868 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Birch Annie Leeds 9b 481
Henderson Edward Leeds 9b 481
>>>>>>>>>>Henri John - Leeds 9b 481
Smith Ada Louisa Leeds 9b 481

So , is that the right chap highlighted on wikipedia?
is that her supposed father?

Probate

Name: Sir Robert Gunter
Probate Date: 9 Dec 1905
Death Date: 18 Sep 1905
Death Place: Yorkshire, England
Registry: London

Effects....£648622..10s..7d
That was alot of money!

Gwyn

Annie Gunter [b.1843] is on the 1881 Census. I had to put her husband's name in, John Henri. He is not there but they had a child by that name. They were living at 17 Dundas Street, Leeds, Yorkshire.

Annie Gunter [b.1843] is on the 1881 Census. I had to put her husband's name in, John Henri. He is not there but they had a child by that name. They were living at 17 Dundas Street, Leeds, Yorkshire.

wikipedia has her father born 1831- started young! if he is the right one

bit of background maybe?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gunter

Is this her ?:

Annie HENRI Wife (Head) M Female 38 Leeds, York, England
John Jas. HENRI Son Male 11 Wetherby, York, England Scholar
Samuel HENRI Son Male 8 Bradford, York, England Scholar
Frederick HENRI Son Male 6 Leeds, York, England Scholar
Dennis HENRI Son Male 2 Leeds, York, England
Eva HENRI Daur Female 3 m Leeds, York, England


Dwelling 17 Dundas St
Census Place Leeds, York, England