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Mary

Sorry.Just expanded original for Alfred Haworth passenger list 1901.
Age looks more like 39 than 31.

Vera

I'm guessing these also relate to Ann's 2nd mob:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1855
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ROACH John FIBLIN Mary Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/23/38
[So either a rego office marr, or a non-conformist (incl RC) marr]


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Thomas Preston Preston PHILLIBIN PRES/91/22

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
ROACH Thomas 0 Preston Preston PRES/70/1

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1857
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Margaret Preston Preston PHILBURN PRES/99/82

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1860
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Mary Preston Preston FILBURN PRES/120/31

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1862
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Elizabeth Preston Preston TILBURN PRES/131/99

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1866
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
ROACH Ellen 0 Preston Preston PRES/118/61

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
ROACH Catherine 1 Preston Preston PRES/159/50

Mary

I will e mail you the passenger list.

Alfred (father) aged 31,EDIT Alfred aged 39 in 1901, Alfred (son) aged 4.

The writing is poor but it looks as if the family had been in the USA previously.
May be they married there.

Ann and Bridget travelled a year later in 1902.

Regards

Vera

the son Alfred? - does this fit with the age?

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1891
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HAWORTH Alfred Walton-le-Dale Preston ROSE WLD/33/79

I put the 2 sets up just as a ref point really so that anybody searching could see that there were 2 families with similar names and matching ages. Our ancestors could be rather consistent in their choice of names!

lancashireAnn, the Roach/Gill list is the right one,(William is my Gdad) we have a copy of their marriage cert for December 1853. i've said before, it doesn't help having 100 rellies sharing a dozen names !!!, and common as muck at that . lol mary.

Well, i have searched the census for Ellen and Alfred in 1901,and nothing, there is a marriage between Alfred Haworth and Ellen ROSE in Preston in March 1886 ( 8e 724 ), checked to see if Ellen was married before but drew a blank there too, There was an Alfred Haworth and Ellen in Blackburn, but she was Parker.

Does it say if the Haworths were joining family ? they only arrived a week or so before the sisters !

mary

Alfreds not Alberts x

Thanks again Vera, does it say any ages for the Alberts then i can try to find more info on the Haworths,
mary

Mary

Possibly same Ellen Haworth Ann and Bridget stayed with. Ellen. travelling to Pawtucket with husband Alfred and Son Alfred


Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943
about Ellen Haworth Name: Ellen Haworth
Arrival Date: 19 Sep 1901
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Saxonia
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Last Residence: Preston

Regards

Vera

and then compare to these

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1859
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Ann Preston Preston FILBIN PRES/109/100 <<<<<<<<<<<<

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1864
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH John Preston Preston FILBAN PRES/147/10

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1866
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Ellen Preston Preston FILBAN PRES/157/89

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1867
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Ellen Preston Preston FILBAN PRES/166/39 <<<<<<<<<<<

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1869
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Sarah Preston Preston FILBAN PRES/180/94

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1871
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Bridget Preston Preston FILIBIN PRES/198/27 <<<<<<<<<

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1873
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Catherine Preston Preston FILBIN PRES/208/98

birth regs of children of james Roach & Mary Gill

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1857
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Ann Preston Preston GILL PRES/96/25 <<<<<<<<<<<<<

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1859
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Mary Preston Preston GILL PRES/109/73

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1860
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Ellen Preston Preston GILL PRES/118/62

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH John Preston Preston GILL PRES/126/81

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1863
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Patrick Preston Preston GILL PRES/141/40

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1865
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH James Preston Preston GILL PRES/154/36

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1867
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Ellen Preston Preston GILL PRES/169/31 <<<<<<<<<<<<

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1869
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH William Preston Preston GILL PRES/184/2

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Bridget Preston Preston GILL PRES/199/60 <<<<<<<<<<<<<

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Michael Preston Preston GILL PRES/215/98

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1876
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
ROACH Edward Preston Preston GILL PRES/231/50

Mary

???? sister Ellen. EDIT did she die 1871 or 1891

1881 England Census
about Ellen Roach Name: Ellen Roach
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Roach
Mother's Name: Mary Roach
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 77 Bedford St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Weaver In Cotton Mill

Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Roach 64
Mary Roach 45
John Roach 20
James Roach 16
William Roach 11
Michael Roach 7
Ann Roach 24
Ellen Roach 14
Bridget Roach 9

Vera

Thanks Maureen, Yes thats Ann, obviously there's a couple of people i'm missing, but as always, very grateful for your help.

Thank you Vera, got Anns page , you've been brilliant,

Mary

sorry Ann is on the next page. I will send it to you.

Regards

Vera

Is this Ann's death? I can't seem to spot her on any census records,though!
Name: Ann Roache
Gender: Female
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Death Date: 11 Feb 1941
Death Place: Pawtucket, R.I.
Age: 80
Birth Date: 1861
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: James Roache
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Mary Gill
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B03127-1
System Origin: Rhode Island-EASy
Source Film Number: 1955509
Reference Number: 126
Collection: Rhode Island Deaths and Burials, 1802-1950


Maureen

Vera2010,
Thanks for sending passenger list, found Bridget but not Ann, but i shall away and wash up, and make tea, (boring ! lol) then i can justify, looking thro tree again later :)))))))))))
thanks again,
mary .

MaureeninNY

Thank you for your help . i have to go back to the tree to find who Mrs Haworth would be ? ,
The only Ellens i have are a stillborn in 1860 and Ellen b1869 d1871 ?
The only other Ellen was Ellen Connell who married James in Ireland and had Thomas in 1847, but she was supposed to have died !!

Back to the Drawing board/Roots , when will i EVER wash up... lol
mary x

Mary

ref Maureen's reply. I can send this with same e mail. Please don't put your e mail address on this page.


Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943
about Ann Roche Name: Ann Roche
Arrival Date: 24 Sep 1902
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Saxonia
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Ellen Haworth
Last Residence: Preston


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Vera