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applebygypsy

applebygypsy Report 15 Apr 2011 18:43

Hi everyone,
I have come across an article of the 73 Regt soldiers from UK who stayed in Australia at their own request. There is a Daniel and John McEwan and a John Miller plus a James , Michael and 3 Thomas Millers. Do you think this is possibly the missing piece of the jigsaw, where John McEwan met up with John Miller and they formed close ties?
James

applebygypsy

applebygypsy Report 12 Apr 2011 09:11

Hi Mel75,
Thank you for your input. I have taken my email address off as you requested, I didn't know it was not allowed. I will add the info you sent to my GR tree. Thanks again.
James

MeJoy75

MeJoy75 Report 12 Apr 2011 08:08

Hi James,

Marriage notice found in local paper, dated 9 January, 1860

On the 31st ult., at the residence of the bride's father, by the Rev P. Smyth, Robert Clarke only son of John Miller Esq, of Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England to Amelia eldest daughter of Mr John McEwan, and grand daughter of the late Lieutenant and Adjutant McEwan of Her Majesty's 1st Royals.

Sheriff's Department
Office - Castlemaine
Name - Miller, Robert C
Date of Appointment - 1st April, 1858
By whom appointed - The Governor
Annual Salary - £350 0s 0d

????????Could this be Amelia's parents
Gaols
Gaol, Castlemaine
Gaoler - McEwen, John
Date of Appointment - July, 1855
By whom appointed - The Sheriff
Annual Salary - £300 0s 0d

Gaol, Castlemaine
Matron - McEwen, Mary
Date of Appointment - July, 1855
By whom appointed - The Sheriff
Annual Salary - £60 0s 0d

The Gaoler and Matron at Castlemaine are allowed quarters, fuel, light, and water.

The above was found in the 1859 Victoria Statistics, The Colony of Victoria, for the year 1858. Presented to both houses of Parliament by His Excellency's command. (Victoria Gazette)

Can you please delete your email address, it is not allowed by GR

applebygypsy

applebygypsy Report 11 Apr 2011 10:33

Hi Linsey,
Correction to my last.
Elizabeth Miller died Dec 1872 Worksop [7b 21] age 84. 1871 census states she is living on the income of houses and land when she was living at 14 Bridge Place, Worksop, Notts.
James

applebygypsy

applebygypsy Report 11 Apr 2011 09:49

Hi Everyone,
You guys and dolls never cease to amaze me. Whilst I have been away working you have still been compiling stuff. Your appetites are ravenous for information. Once your on the trail, like a dog with a bone, you don't let go. Ref your last Lindsey. Elizabeth Hogg [from the 1st marriage] born 1829 Worksop who assumed the Miller name is possibly the one whose age seems a bit off? I owe you all beers for this huge amount of info you have given me, so if you ever get to England let me know. I am going to do an overlander next year from UK to Oz on the tour bus so I hope then to visit the places the Millers and McEwens lived at. Thank you all again.
James

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 10 Apr 2011 22:40

I'm guessing she's Roberts mother, the Malsters wife?
Deaths Dec 1872 (>99%)
MILLER Elizabeth 84 Worksop 7b 21 the age is a bit off?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Apr 2011 22:21

I wonder what the connection with the Millers was?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Apr 2011 22:17

AND


from the new beta.familysearch site

www.familysearch.org/



record title: Australia Marriages, 1810-1980

groom's name: Robert Clarke Miller
bride's name: Amelia Mcewan
marriage date: 31 Dec 1859
marriage place: Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia
groom's father's name: John Miller
bride's father's name: John Mcewan
indexing project (batch) number: M00376-6
system origin: Australia
source film number: 993839




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Apr 2011 22:15

findmypast.au is having a 24 hour free trial. You might want to go on there and see what else you can find.

http://www.findmypast.com.au

I found the following possible entries:


Victorian Government Gazette 1860
Page 1 of 1
1

Page Content More Details
675 Miller, Amelia, la. Or. 3p., Castlemaine


Melbourne Directory 1863 (Sands)

Page Content More Details
475 Bailiff, Robert Clarke Miller More Details


same for 1864, 1865, 1866, and 1867



sylvia

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 10 Apr 2011 22:03

Oh how dull

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941 about Henry Wortley Latham
Name: Henry Wortley Latham
Probate Date: 20 Oct 1908
Death Date: 7 Sep 1907
Death Place: Nottinghamshire, England
Registry: Nottingham

left only £5 effects to his widow Katherine


also named as exec.

ELIZABETH MILLER, Deceased.
Pursuant to the Act of Parliament 22nd and 23rd Victoria,
cap. 35, intituled " An Act to further amend the Law of
Property, and to relieve Trustees."
N
OTICE is hereby given, that all creditors and others
having any claims or demands on or against the
estate of Elizabeth Miller, late of Worksop, in the county of
Nottingham, Widow, deceased (who died on the 5th day of
November, 1372, and whose will was proved by Benjamin
Eddison, of Shireoaks, in the said county of Nottingham,
Farmer and Miller, and Henry Wortley Latham, of Worksop
aforesaid, Grocer, the executors therein named, on the 10th
day of January, 1873, in the District Registry attached to
Her Majesty's Court of Probate at Nottingham), are
required, on or before the 24th day of June next, to send
in to the undersigned particulars, in writing, of such claims
and demands; or in default thereof the said executors will,
at the expiration of the above time, proceed to distribute
the assets of the deceased amongst the parties entitled
thereto, having regard to the debts, claims, and demands
only of which they shall then have had notice.—12th
March, 1873.
By order of the said Executors,
HODDING and BEEVOR, Solicitors, Worksop

£3000 effects

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Apr 2011 21:54

I'd noticed it too, hadn't pursued it.


SANDS & McDOUGALL'S
MELBOURNE AND SUBURBAN
DIRECTORY
FOR 1865.

STREET, ALPHABETICAL, AND TRADE DIRECTORY
MELBOURNE AND SUBURBS,
TOGETHER WITH A
MISCELLANEOUS DIRECTORY OF USEFUL INFORMATION

It's under the heading Legal, subheading Sheriff's Department, a list of names and positions.

... Bailiff, Robert Clarke Miller
Governor of Gaol, John McEwen
Visiting Justice, George Harrison, ...

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Apr 2011 21:44

I googled Robert Clarke Miller, and found the following

File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Bailiff, Robert Clarke Miller. Governor of Gaol, John McEwen. Visiting Justice, George Harrison,. Sheriff for Sandhurst, Richard Colles ...
www.unlockthepast.com.au/sites/default/files/samples/AU7113-1865s.pdf


I couldn't read it, but think it's just a listing of "businesses" in Melbourne

But I found the juxtaposition of Robetr Clarke Miller and John McEwen ineresting



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Apr 2011 21:35

True, Janey!

I could always arrange to meet James at the pub on the wharf!


we're back out there in July :)))


It did seem to me that "under £2000" was not a lot of money, even for 1867 .... so you could be correct in thinking there might be something to find in Australia.


I did try looking on the australian newspaper site, trove.nla


sylvia

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Apr 2011 17:58

Ah, but Sylvia, you visit Nova Scotia! Me, I'm just here in boring Central Canada ... watching "Rake", Tony! (Mick in the Bush recommended it in my thread on Chat and we've watched the first episode and have just downloaded 5 more ... although wishing we had closed captioning on our television to get subtitles for some of it!)

I wonder whether Robert Clarke Miller might have had property in Australia still that called for probate there too. (There was a case of that on the boards here recently, where the will of someone who died in England was probated in Australia for that reason.)

My bet for the deaths of Robert and Amelia might be tuberculosis (phthisis in the old jargon). It took several in a single family in my tree. The death certificates would say.

applebygypsy

applebygypsy Report 10 Apr 2011 08:32

Hi again Sylvia,
Just had a quick kip and am getting ready for the off at 0900 for an open day. The extra additions of John Clarke Millers Probate and the other things you have informed me off is an abundance of information I never thought I would get, having stumbled on getting no where. The help from Lesley and TonyOz is also invaluable. I will try Tony again later over the Victoria web site as having had a quick look I see it costs to join. I did have a free 24 hour look for these people on GR.au but to no avail. I think I must also try to find out about Amelia McEwen and her ancestry. Once again many many thanks for the wealth of information. Cheers. James Barrie Newton

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Apr 2011 04:04

here's the probate information for John Clarke Miller


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941

Name: John Clarke Miller
Probate Date: 16 Nov 1898
Death Date: 10 Sep 1898
Death Place: Nottinghamshire, England
Registry: Nottingham


from image:-

Miller John Clarke of 8 Patrick Road, West Bridgeford, Nottinghamshire, Gentleman, died 10 September 1898. Probate [granted] Nottingham 16 November to Lilian Elizabeth Miller, widow. Effects £6013 5s 11d




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Apr 2011 03:58

I'd be interested in finding out whether there was any relationship between Henry Wortley Latham, George Baxter and Robert Clarke Miller



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Apr 2011 03:56

James

Thank you

it was a great feeling to find that!



.......... but I actually live further away from Nova Scotia than you do!!




sylvia

applebygypsy

applebygypsy Report 10 Apr 2011 02:04

Hi Sylvia,
Tremendous, I bow to your superior knowledge! I will obtain a copy to see who was bequeathed what. As he died after his wife it should all hopefully be John Clarke Miller and any brothers and sisters he had. Once again thank you for all you help and assistance. To say I owe you one is an understatement. If I ever get to my cousins in Wilmot, Nova Scotia one day I will let you know, and buy you a beer. Ta very muchly.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 10 Apr 2011 02:01

Dont you just love it when it all falls into place !