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kirstie

kirstie Report 16 Apr 2011 22:04

Trying to find info on my great great grandmother elizabeth campbell born abt 1847-1851 in belfast.
father - john campbell - occupation - labourer
mother - ??
husband - john lepper fergie abt 1847 - occupation - sample maker
Married in 1871.

Children - mary agnes sloan fergie 1871
charles fergie - 1874 (my great grandfather)

my maiden name was fergie and now thanks to my hubby its campbell !!! history repeating itself lol

any help would be much appreciated :0)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 17 Apr 2011 09:02

Kirstie...Check out the 1901/1911 Irish Census..free to search and download...
The 1911 Census shows the family still in Denmark St. but with Lily Fergie (grandaughter aged 40.should be 10 years !!!..she is daughter of Eliz Miligan and Charles Fergie)
Lizzie is living 1901 with her father William and other children Tennent St. (Marion'John L.H and Lily) plus other family members.

For ref. 1901

Residents of a house 30 in Denmark Street (Court Ward, Antrim)

Fergie John L 55 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Belfast City Laundryman Read and write - Married -
Fergie Eliza 49 Female Wife Presbyterian Belfast City - Read and write - Married -
Fergie Mary Agnes 24 Female Daughter Presbyterian


Residents of a house 134 in Tennent Street (Shankhill, Antrim)

Fergie Lizzie 24 Female Boarder Presbyterian Belfast - Read and write English Married -
Fergie Lily Female Daughter Presbyterian Belfast - Cannot write English Not Married -
Milligan Minnie 26 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Belfast Damash Weaver Read and write English Not Married -
Milligan Jeannie 22 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Belfast Damash Weaver Read and write English Not Married -
Milligan Agnes 20 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Belfast Damash Weaver Read and write English Not Married -
Fergie Marion 2 Female Daughter Presbyterian Belfast - Cannot write English Not Married -
Redpath William 10 Male Grand Son Church of Ireland Belfast Scholar Read and write English Not Married -
Milligan James 60 Male Head of Family Church of Ireland Belfast Shoemaker Read and write English Widower -
Milligan William 18 Male Son Church of Ireland Belfast Painter Read and write English Not Married -
Fergie John L H 3 Male Son Presbyterian

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 17 Apr 2011 09:08

Kirstie...This is interesting...(unless Mary Anne had a daughter named Lily she is also listed with her parents 1911)

Residents of a house 37 in Heather Street (Shankill, Antrim)

Fergie Charles 37 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Belfast Carpenter in Shipyard Read and write - Married - 13 5 5
Fergie Lizzie 35 Female Wife Presbyterian Belfast - Read and write - Married - 13 5 5
Fergie John 13 Male Son Presbyterian Belfast Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Fergie May 11 Female Daughter Presbyterian Belfast Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Fergie Lillie 10 Female Daughter Presbyterian Belfast Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Fergie Charles 8 Male Son Presbyterian Belfast Scholar Read - Single - - - -
Fergie William 3 Male Son Presbyterian

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 17 Apr 2011 09:18

Kirstie...Chas.and Eliz were living 2 Rathlin St.when they sighed the Ulster Covenant..
John L (snr.) was at Denmark St.

kirstie

kirstie Report 17 Apr 2011 09:49

thankyou eringobragh1916 :0)

may is infact marion, i know from family members further down my tree that she went by both names but was infact born marrion..
lily was also born elizabeth....
i couldnt find charles fergie on the 1901 census but lennon wylie's ulster street directory shows him at number 6 lorton street.
Im sure this was a family home as in 1880 john lepper fergie is on there at number 6 lorton street.

my grandfather charles fergie born 1902 (parents elizabeth milligan and charles fergie 1874) died when my father was not quite 2 anyhow my gran margaret moore remarried and my grandfathers siblings and mother moved to new jersey... i have managed to track them down but they know nothing of the years in belfast.

i could be wrong but i have a feeling that elizabeth campbells mother was called catherine......

i have hit a brick wall on elizabeth campbell and john lepper fergie, other than their married details, fathers names and their 2 childrens names i am stuck..
do you know how i can go back further on the info for them both please??

kirstie

p.s i forget to add that my grandparents charles fergie 1902 and margaret moore 1909 came to england in 1937 and after my grandfather died my gran stayed here and it was her new husband that cut the family ties..

kirstie

kirstie Report 17 Apr 2011 09:52

i meant to write that it was the descendants that i tracked down in new jersey!! silly me :0)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 17 Apr 2011 11:31

Kirstie....You should have no great problem going back aways ...Maura on here is excellent for sifting folk out Belfast and NI...just a case of waiting until everyone gets online ....


kirstie

kirstie Report 17 Apr 2011 11:49

Thankyou your help is very much appreciated :0)
not sure how this works....
am i right in thinking that when maura and yourself aswell as others log on you check the latest that you can help with and go from there?

first time ive used this way for help :0)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 17 Apr 2011 12:39

Kirstie...What happens is I will look through and see what I may be able to help with...others do the same ..however some people tend to have subscriptions to various sites and will look for info.for you...
When I say "log on " I mean when they visit the boards....
Just like you we are all looking for help one way or another and share what we can find...
I have had a look at the LW site and see Charlie listed for Lorton St...I am after wondering if this was his place of work..shop.. perhaps ?

kirstie

kirstie Report 17 Apr 2011 12:53

thankyou, once again much apprecited :0)

i know my great grandfather charles was a carpenter if that may help with regards to shop??
i also know from my gran that he worked for harland and wolff on the building of the titanic and went on the practice run... along with all the other workers....
my gran also said he belonged to the orange lodge (although i dont know what that is)

kirstie

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 17 Apr 2011 13:01

Kirstie...I suggest you use a search engine to check out the History of the Orange Order...


"The Orange Order is Northern Ireland's largest Protestant organisation, and has around 40,000 members locally. Its origins lie in the 1690 Battle of the Boyne when the Dutch Protestant King William of Orange defeated his father-in-law, Catholic King James ll of England and Vll of Scotland."



kirstie

kirstie Report 17 Apr 2011 13:46

thankyou i will have a look , i was never great at history :0)

Maura

Maura Report 17 Apr 2011 15:14

John Lepper Fergey baptised in St Anne's C.O.I. Belfast 30/08/1846 parents Charles Fergey & Eliza Sloan

www.ancestryireland.com

kirstie

kirstie Report 17 Apr 2011 15:31

thankyou thankyou maura..........
i have been searching for these details for 3 years
i appreciate your help so much :0)
i am on a high now and will be on the computer until silly o clock following up on the info to see where else it can lead me!!!

eringobragh1916 did say that you were excellent at finding folk in belfast and NI !!!!

i had a niggle there was a sloan somewhere from johns daughter mary agnes sloan fergie and seeing as its a surname i guessed there would be a link somewhere!!

i really cant thankyou enough :) :0)

kirstie :0)

Maura

Maura Report 17 Apr 2011 16:45

found these deaths

Name of deceased Female Child Of Charles & Margt Fergie
Last place of residence Belfast Maty Hospl, 9 Moffett St
Age 2 Hours
Sex
Date of death 3 November 1929
Date of burial 5 November 1929
Cemetery City Cemetery - Public Ground
Grave section and number
Burial type Earth Burial

Name of deceased Mstr Stanley Fergie
Last place of residence Union Infirmery, 9 Moffatt Street
Age 6 Months
Sex
Date of death 29 March 1934
Date of burial 31 March 1934
Cemetery City Cemetery - Public Ground
Grave section and number
Burial type Earth Burial

http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialrecords/search.asp

kirstie

kirstie Report 17 Apr 2011 17:01

thankyou again :0 ):0)

i cant believe i never knew about these boards before as it would have saved me some sleepless stuck nights lol
my aunty says her mum (my gran maggie) told her that she started with a girl and finished with a girl and that she had lost children early on aswell as suffering many miscarriges....
i had no names or dates and didnt know if it was before or after they left belfast so didnt know where to begin :0)

9 moffet street is on charles and margarets wedding cert...


the info that you have been giving me is crucial and i cant tell you how much i appreciate your help

kirstie

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 17 Apr 2011 17:01

Kirstie..Where has your other thread gone...?

kirstie

kirstie Report 17 Apr 2011 17:11

i deleted it as you mentioned about the duplicating info and as im new to this i didnt want to start anoying anyone :0)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 17 Apr 2011 18:52

Kirstie....Can you put address where Charles was born on here...I was looking for the thread to refer back to info...now Ive lost it...

kirstie

kirstie Report 17 Apr 2011 22:18

sorry for late reply i just got back in..... my sunday night bingo with my mum!
The address was 83 westmoreland street at the time of charles baptism in 1871
kirstie