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Marian

Regarding the 1911 Census of your family. If you look at the actual copy of the census the transcribers have miss spelt some of the details. It looks like Mary Kelly's parents are Annie Kelly Not Keay as spelt and Denis Kelly Not Keay as spelt.

The family are also listed at the same address on the 1901 census.

I have a few of my own irish relatives on the census that have been miss spelt too.

Suzanne

Hi,I have found out loads of info again,have been in touch will the local catholic church and they were very helpful ,she has sent me so much info.

She found the family, and before they lived in Eden rd,Birr,they lived at Pound st,Birr.
Parents of Elizabeth are Francis Kelly and Mary Kelly (nee Murphy).
Francis (junior) possiblyLawrence born Oct 1910
Agnes born Nov 1911
Kathleen born Jan 1913 (my mum's godmother on the baptism cert)
Elizabeth born sept 1916 (My mum's birth mother)
These were just confirmation records so no exact dates of birth.Then there were some more children,as follows
William Joseph (born 20/8/1916,unsure if correct,but woman at church said they often lied about age to get them in to school earlier)
Teresa born 22/9/1919
Josephine born 13/6/1923
Marie Cyrilene born 22/12/1925
and finally Anne Christina born 7/6/1928

I have loads of infobut have no idea what to do with it all at the moment,can anyone find anything more out fromthis info?would be hugley grateful. Marian

Residents of a house 52 in Pound Street (Birr Urban, King's Co.)
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Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Kelly Francis 29 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Galway General Labourer Read and write English Married - - - -
Kelly Mary 21 Female Wife Roman Catholic Kings Co - Read and write English Married - 1 1 1
Kelly Patrick Male Son Roman Catholic Kings Co - Cannot r

Name: Francis Kelly
Registration District: Birr
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1910
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101262
Volume Number: 3
Page Number: 305
Digital Folder Number: 4199364
Image Number: 00024
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

Name: Mary Murphy
Registration District: Birr
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1910
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101262
Volume Number: 3
Page Number: 305
Digital Folder Number: 4199364
Image Number: 00032
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

This marriage is coming up on http://ifhf.rootsireland.ie/

Both Mary & Francis father's are a Patrick.

The child Patrick in the 1911 census is also coming up with mother Maria Murphy, along with Maria Agnes 1911 & a Catharina 1913 [Kathleen]

Hi

To view the Marriage Details of Mary Murphy & Francis Kelly at offaly.rootsireland.ie it costs 5 Euro's. This should give you more info.

Suzanne

thankyou everyone,its so weird to think all these people are my relatives, I now know at least where I am from. How would I find Elizabeths full date of birth? many thanks again all.

Just been informed that the children with the full date of birth and the others with month of birth may actually be baptism or confirmation dates.

You'll have to order her birth cert

http://www.groireland.ie/

General Register Office, Government Offices,
Convent Road, Roscommon.
Tel: +353 (0) 90 6632900
LoCall: 1890 252076
Fax: +353 (0) 90 6632999
Fax: +353 (0) 90 6632988

Yes, I will ,thankyou .

The plot thickens, do you think its probable that Elizabth ann's name is slighlty different ? on my mum's birth cert it says Elizabeth Ann Kelly, and on the admissions and discharge reg it said Elizabeth Kelly, mother Mary Kelly,mother lived at Birr County rd Offaly. Then we found out from local church that she had 8 siblings and father was Francis Kelly, so we ordered birth cert and that says Annie Elizabeth Kelly still with same parents and still Birr Co Offaly. Is this usual can anyone tell me? can we assume it is the correct birth cert if everything is same except name slightly different? we are a bit worried now.
:-S

The GRO(I) index thru 1958 (excl N. Ireland post-partition) is available at:
https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/list#page=1®ion=EUROPE

One can purchase certs (or cheaper still, the uncertified images of the rego) via:
http://www.groireland.ie/

The Irish 1901/1911 censuses are free at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
[Not heard of any release dates for next census (=1926 in both Irelands)]

Marion, what year is the birth for and who the informant on the cert.

Hi sorry for delay, informant is her mother Mary Kelly, date is 4/9/1915, its just that we have other documents saying her name was Elizabeth Ann Kelly and on this birth cert it was Annie Elizabeth Kelly, we just wondered if this was common.