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A Question and WW1 Service Records

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sally

sally Report 23 May 2011 16:50

I have my Grandfathers birth cert, but the date doesn't match what it says on Family Search!

On Family Search it says 13th March 1882
The cert says 5th May 1882
His parents are the same, James & Margaret Mainwaring.
In 1881, before Margaret married, she was Margaret Taylor 50, Dryden St Liverpool. On my Grandfathers birth cert its the same address. He is Richard Mainwaring.
Has anyone got any ideas????

Could someone please lookup WW1 Service Records for my Grandfather!

Kind Regards Sally

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 May 2011 16:57

Maybe the family search is a submitted entry . These are trees that have been uploaded to family search and must be treated with caution.
For instance my paternal grandmothers family were Dartnells the eldest son being named as Nathaniel with a second christian name . Someone uploaded a file for the family and got mixed up which Nathaniel was the father, so a grandad is listed as the dad of one of the Nathaniel sons

Flick

Flick Report 23 May 2011 17:00

Are you certain that you are looking at the BIRTH date on the cert?

Or is 5th May the date when the birth was REGISTERED?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 May 2011 17:05

Shirely it is an extracted record but perhaps it was'nt too clear from the transcript!!

Richard Mainwaring Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth: 13 MAR 1882

Christening: 28 MAY 1882 St Peter'S, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Parents:
Father: James Mainwaring Family
Mother: Margaret


Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

sally

sally Report 23 May 2011 17:06

Hi Shirley........it can be confusing, i was just looking through the surname and found him. If i didnt have the cert i would have believed that date.

It must of been confusing for you also!

I just feel sorry for people who believe what they are seeing.

Thanks for your advice Sally

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 May 2011 17:07

Flick I wondered that!

sally

sally Report 23 May 2011 17:08

Its the Birth Flick, i have it in front of me.
He was Registered on 16th June 1882

Dea

Dea Report 23 May 2011 17:16

Well, I have just looked at the actual parish register page for St. Peter's on Ancestry and it certainly does give a clear birth date of 13th March.

Very strange !

Dea x

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 May 2011 17:18

Name: Richard Mainwaring
Birth Date: 13 Mar
[abt 1882]
Baptism Date: 28 May 1882
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Father's name: James Mainwaring
Mother's name: Margaret Mainwaring

the person who registered the baptism noted the birth as born 13th March!! maybe asked the wrong question when taking the details

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 May 2011 17:23

I have just looked at his baptism and it definately says in the register that he was baptised 28th May and born 13th Mch. The address is as you say Dryden St.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 23 May 2011 17:25

I have a friend whose father's birthdate was not that shown on his birth certificate.
Family story from his older siblings was that the birthdate was 'adjusted' to fit in with a rather late registration and to avoid paying a fine.


Gwyn

sally

sally Report 23 May 2011 17:26

I just couldnt believe it myself, and as ive said only that i have the Birth Cert i wouldnt be any the wiser!!!

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 May 2011 17:27

Is that his marriage on Ancestry too .

Christmas Day 1903?

To Jane Murphey

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 May 2011 17:30

That rings a bell too Gynn. I was taking to a cousin recently who told me her dad. my mums half bros, birth on the cert wasnt right. he was born in 1904 but grandad & his ist wife missed the 6 week deadline to register the birth ,so to avoid a fine they "adjusted" the birth date details!!! ;-)

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 May 2011 17:32

I wonder if he ever knew?

sally

sally Report 23 May 2011 17:33

Hi Gwen........ I always thought once you register a birth thats whats shown on the cert. Because it was 1882, and god know's who Delivered him you could give any date???

sally

sally Report 23 May 2011 17:37

Yes thats when he married Jane Murphy, had an awful time trying to find her in the Census.
I did find who i thought was her and family, only to find later she was Catherine Jane Murphy!!! All sorted now lol

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 23 May 2011 17:38

I guess that when the birth was registered, the Registrar just recorded the facts as they were given to him.
Only with births of notables or more recently in hospital would there be information available to cross-check.

Gwyn

sally

sally Report 23 May 2011 18:04

Well its a mystery to me!

Thanks for all your help everyone



Kind Regards Sally

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 23 May 2011 18:42

Check census records too.

If he were born in March he would be 9 in 1891and 19 in 1901.

If born in May he would be 8 and 18.

Rose