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A piece of information from previous next door neighbours.

John Robert was John to his wife and Robert to his family. Quite common apparently in some places in Wales for the child to be called by the middle name. Perhaps the same with Martha Mary and Edgar J.

P.S. The 1891 census I found is probably the wrong one, but it can be checked and crossed off the list.

Just adding my two-penneth.

If no father was mentioned on her marriage certificate and she can't be traced on any census I would hazard a guess that her mother married before the 1891 census and Martha is using her stepfathers surname....... so seeing as Walkley isn't a common name I would look at all the female marriages from 1887 to March 1891 and see if Martha turns up using a different name???


Dee x

Hi Pam,
Sorry for not getting back sooner, it was late and went to bed. Im not sure it Samuel Walkley is family, I think more research and maybe birth certs req'd, I will get hold of the family
Thanks

Hi there, a couple of weeks ago I asked for help in trying to find parents $ sibblings of Martha Mary Walkley, we came to a stand still. I now have her birth cert, she was born 18 July 1887 Village CulmstockWellington, Somerset, Devon. Mother is listed as Mary Ann Walkley - village Culmstock. There is no father named. I think I found mother - Mary Ann Walkley on the 1881 UK census age 14 born 1867 Culmstock, Devon, living in that area and working as a domestic servant living with William Coles age 56 occup farmer. Other people - Lydia Coles 56, Mary Coles 25, Thomas Coles 20. Thats all I have been able to find, I cant find Mary on 1871census or any other, not even with her daughter. ( Daughter ended up living in Wales she married William John Skyrme 40 yrs after living together. Can someone please help sort this out for me I would be greatful

hope I have done this right

Births?

Births Mar 1867 (>99%)
Walkley Mary Ann Wellington, Som. 5c 4__

Births Sep 1887 (>99%)
WALKLEY Martha Mary Wellington, Som 5c 310

The district Wellington, Som is an alternative name for Wellington Som and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Devon and Somerset

Yes, you have done it right.

I have looked at marriages, there are about 3, but cant tie them in. One was to LLewellyn Yorath Williams 1888 in glamognshire, Thomas Frederick Miles and or Edgar Henry Ellicatt 1896 Devonshire

I have looked at 1871 and 1891 but I can't find her????

I couldnt either, I dont think this family wants to be found

So was Mary Ann a twin??

Births Mar 1867 (>99%)
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Walkley Mary Ann Wellington, Som. 5c 4__
Walkley Samuel Wellington, Som. 5c 4__


1871 England Census
about Samuel Walkley Name: Samuel Walkley
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Culmstock, Devon, England
Civil parish: Wellington
Town: Wellington
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Wellington
Sub-registration district: Wellington
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 36
Piece: 2363
Folio: 9
Page Number: 10

Other Walkley children in the Union Workhouse;

Jane Walkley 11
Emily Walkley 9
Bessie Walkley 7
Sarah J Walkley 5



The Wales Connection??

1891 Wales Census
about Samuel Walkely Name: Samuel Walkely
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Wellington, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Llanedarn
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanedarn
Town: Machen Upper
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4384
Folio: 4
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Williams 46
George H W Williams 23
E M Williams 14
M E Williams 15
Lilian A Williams 6
James Thomas 22
Samuel Walkely 23


Going back to the 1871 census........ I traced Jane who was 11 on the 1871 census and her parents were;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Mar 1868 (>99%)
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WALKLEY Jane 41 Wellington Som. 5c 264

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Deaths Sep 1870 (>99%)
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Walkley Jacob 47 Wellington, Som. 5c 274


I know it still doesn't account for Mary Ann, but maybe she was taken in by a relative under a different surname???


Dee x