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Coming back to this again.

The birth above could be this one born Bexley which is in the same registration area

Gertrude Allen
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas C Allen
Mother's name: Emma E Allen
Gender: Female
Where born: Bexley, Kent, England
Civil parish: Bexley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Bexley
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Surely this would be the birth reg. ?

Births Mar 1889
Allen Gertrude Dartford 2a 477

The christening record gives her date of birth as 21st December, 1888.

Dartford is only 1 mile from Woolwich.

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LUCK, Mary Head Widow F 64 1817 Hawker
Carlisle
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LUCK, John Son Single M 29 1852 Gen Lab
Carlisle
Cumberland VIEW


Civil Parish:
Caldewgate Municipal Borough:
Address:
Fleet, Caldewgate County:
Cumberland

EDIT: Think this may be LUSK.

Looking at different options

RUTHERFORD, Robert Head Married M 37 1824 Police Constable
...
Cumberland VIEW
RUTHERFORD, Jane Wife Married F 40 1821
Westward
Cumberland VIEW
RUTHERFORD, Mary Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar
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Cumberland VIEW
RUTHERFORD, James Son M 9 1852 Scholar
...
Cumberland VIEW

Civil Parish:
St Cuthbert Within Municipal Borough:
Carlisle Address:
2, Bake House Lane, St Cuthbert Within, Carlisle County:
Cumberland

Hi,
You have probably tried these...

Births Jun 1889 (>99%)
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Allen Gertrude Greenwich 1d 1090
Allen Gertrude Annie Greenwich 1d 1048

Regards Vera

The only way you will find out where she was born and her mothers maiden name is to buy her birth certificate

Confusing.

For reference only. To place her.

She was baptised Gertrude Rutherford with parents as John (a labourer) and Margaret Allen

She appears on the 1891 (following your research) as Gertrude Rutherford with Parents James Rutherford a general labourer born Burgh Cumberland and M A born London as his wife and her moither

In 1901 she is Gertrude Look (on FMP) daughter of James a tinsmith born Carlisle Cumberland and Mary born Walworth

In 1911 she is Gertrude Rutherford with the Pearce family.


What information is given on her marriage certificate to George Baker in 1915?

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Gertrude Rutherford Allen
Name: Gertrude Rutherford Allen
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1889
Baptism Date: 22 Sep 1889
Father's name: John Allen <<Labourer
Mother's name: Margaret Allen
Parish or Poor Law Union: Woolwich St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Greenwich

Address: Ruth Grove St ....might be Rush

Edit: Gertrude received some money from M.K. Allan (should be Allen) in 1908. She could be her mother and she came from C/- Post Office Caversham, Oxfordshire where unknown Mary Allen worked. It was from Dr Barnardo records via her son's foster home.

M.K. could be Margaret Kathleen because Gertrude and her husband, George had twin stillborn daughters' names were Margaret and Kathleen.

I have been looking for my great grandmother's biological parents, John and Margaret Allen for few years. It is still unsuccessful.

Few years ago I found my great grandmother, Gertrude Allen's baptism record from Ancestry. It was Gertrude Rutherford Allen in Woolwich on September 1889. Rutherford was Gertrude's foster parents, James and Mary Rutherford. I still don't have Gertrude's birth certificate. She was born on 21 December 1888 but I don't know where she was born. Her 1891 census appears she was born in Lambeth. 1901 she (Rook) was born in Woolwich. 1911, her birth of place is unknown. I can't wait for 1921!

Mystery, early this year, I found out Gertrude’s step father in law, Edward Pearce’s mother was Charlotte Allen. I have no idea how relate between Gertrude and Charlotte. Gertrude was a visitor of Edward and his second wife, Ellen (my great great grandmother) in 1911 census in Woolwich.

How can I find out details about ages, birth of place, etc of John and Margaret Allen? They lived at 1 Rush Grove Street Woolwich for few months between August and October 1889.

I am trying to find John and Margaret Allen’s parents who would be my great great great grandparents.

Cheers, Steven.