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ngland & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Helen Curtis
Name: Helen Curtis
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1856
Registration district: Clerkenwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 500


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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Helen Curtis
Name: Helen Curtis
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1876
Age at Death: 20
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 185

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Deaths Sep 1904 (>99%)
CURTIS Alfred 42 Greenwich 1d 580


1911 census - household transcription
Person: CURTIS, Alice
Address: 33 Hale St Deptford


FOLEY, James Contracting Together Widower M 54 1857 Hawker Greenwich VIEW
CURTIS, Alice Contracting Together Widow F 47 1864 Assisting In Business Deptford VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2625 Reference:
RG14PN2625 RG78PN89 RD28 SD2 ED2 SN88

Registration District:
Greenwich Sub District:
Deptford East Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
St Paul Deptford

Address:
33 Hale St Deptford County:
London

On the image it states......Cohabiting together.


Marriages Jun 1916 (>99%)
Curtis Alice M Foley Greenwich 1d 2063
Foley James Curtis Greenwich 1d 2063

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Alfred Curtis
Name: Alfred Curtis
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1860
Registration district: Clerkenwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 522


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish

Name: Alfred Curtis
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Spouse Name: Alice Mary Reeves
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1882
Parish: St Paul, Deptford
County: Kent
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: Samuel Curtis
Spouse Father Name: Francis Reeves


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1891 England Census
about Alfred Curtis
Name: Alfred Curtis
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice Curtis
[Ellen Curtis]
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
Town: Deptford
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 494
Folio: 112
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Curtis 30 Dock Labourer
Alice Curtis 25
Alfred Curtis 8

This family are not the Curtis family...........there are the Eldridge family and they live next door!!
Ellen Curtis 53 Born Deptford.
Sophia Curtis 23
John Curtis 19
Ellen Curtis 7 Weeks

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Samuel Wallis Curtis
Name: Samuel Wallis Curtis
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1854
Registration district: Clerkenwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 441



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish

Name: Samuel Wallis Curtis
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Aldridge
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 01 Aug 1881
Parish: St David, Barnsbury
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Samuel Curtis
Spouse Father Name: Charles Aldridge


Name: Samuel Wallis Curtis
Spouse: Elizabeth Aldridge
Father: Samuel Curtis
Birth: abt 1854
Marriage: 1 Aug 1881 - Islington, Middlesex


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Samuel Wallis Curtis
Name: Samuel Wallis Curtis
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1888
Age at Death: 33
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 170

You have your work cut ouf for you on this one Keith!! ;-)

ive just been trying to find her death :-)

once more a big thank you for all your help every one :-D

If you look at the 1861 census..........there is a Mary Ann Wallis...........Sister.

So did Helen die and Samuel marry her sister?


If this is Helens death.......Samuel married Mary before she died!

Deaths Dec 1863 (>99%)
CURTIS Helen Pancras 1b 19

Name: Samuel Curtis (Harness Maker) (Widower)
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Wallis
Spouse Age: 40
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 Apr 1863
Parish: St John, Clerkenwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Samuel Curtis
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Wallis

(looking at above image, could varnish be mistaken for harness on William's marriage Cert. not seeing that on London Marriages)

Chris :)


Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%)
CURTIS Samuel John Pulman Clerkenwell 1b 689
WALLIS Helen Clerkenwell 1b 689

1841 England Census
about Samuel John Pubman Curtis
Name: Samuel John Pubman Curtis
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Totnes
Hundred: Coleridge
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Totnes
Sub-registration district: Totnes
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Periam Curtis 40
Elizabeth Clarke Curtis 37
Elizabeth Calman Curtis 17
Samuel John Pubman Curtis 15
Mary Jane Curtis 14
Hannah Grace Curtis 12
Wm Periam Curtis 10
Fanny Sherry Curtis 8
Coma Maria Curtis 6
Harris Terry Curtis 6
Thomas Clarke Curtis 13

i,ll have to do more digging :-)

This is the only William/Samuel combination showing:
William John Curtis
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1869
Baptism Date: 26 Dec 1869
Father's name: Samuel Curtis - Shoemaker
Mother's name: Clara Curtis
Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields St Stephen
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Could William have been his second name (nothing showing for London births though)?

a big thankyou to you all for your time, and for the info :-D

As James is 18 in 1901 and 1911, wrongly copied down in 1901?
William's age does seem to be around 1865 throughout.

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Has age 18 for James been mistranscibed on the 1901?

1911 census - household transcription
Person: CURTIS, Alfred
Address: 15 Frankham St Deptford

CURTIS, William Head Married M 46 1865 Slaughter Man London Islington VIEW
CURTIS, Mary Wife Married
24 years F 41 1870 Housekeeper London Islington VIEW
CURTIS, James Son Single M 18 1893 Painters Labourer London Deptford VIEW
CURTIS, Thomas Son Single M 15 1896 Baker Boy London Deptford VIEW
CURTIS, Alfred Son M 13 1898 School London Deptford VIEW
CURTIS, Emily Daughter F 11 1900 School London Deptford VIEW
CURTIS, Ellen Daughter F 5 1906 School London Deptford VIEW
CURTIS, Anne Daughter F 1 1910 London Deptford VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2626 Reference:
RG14PN2626 RG78PN89 RD28 SD2 ED3 SN243

Registration District:
Greenwich Sub District:
Deptford East Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
St Paul Deptford

Address:
15 Frankham St Deptford County:
London

yes that the family in 1901

i suppose both occupation could be connected :-)

Is this them in 1901, as James must be from a previous relationship?
1901 England Census
William Curtis
Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Curtis
Gender: Male Where born: Islington, London, England
Civil parish: Deptford St Paul Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London Country: England
Street Address: 168 Evelyn Street Occupation: Slaughterman
Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: Deptford, North ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 23 Piece: 524 Folio: 143
Page Number: 4

William Curtis 35
Mary Curtis 31
James Curtis 18 Deptford
Thomas Curtis 5 Deptford
Alfred Curtis 3 Deptford
Emily Curtis 2 Months Deptford

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 524; Folio: 143; Page: 4.

yes he is with william and mary

Varnish maker/Saddler are the 2 occupations connected??

Maryb