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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Jun 2011 17:29

Can't see a death for George Dale that fits between 1853 and 1857 - just these two:

Deaths Mar 1859
Dale George Wolstanton 6b 64
Dale George Wolstanton 6b 64

I have doubts that she was a Rutledge marrying a Dale - what proof do you have that your information is correct?

The census etc points otherwise.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 26 Jun 2011 17:25

How have you come about the other 2 marriages? It states that that Emma's father's name was Wiliam Dale for both of those marriages.

farmer

farmer Report 26 Jun 2011 17:23

LONDONBELLE IT WAS RUTLEDGE AND FIRST HUSBAND WAS GEORGE AND HIS FATHER WAS GEORGE BORN ABT 1782

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 26 Jun 2011 17:16

If 1861 census above is correct I'm just wondering whether Emma was born Emma Dale not Rutledge....following is 1851 census

Name: William Dall
[William Dale]
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Dall
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Cob Moore, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Brieryhurst
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Mow Cop

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub-registration district: Wolstanton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Piece: 2002
Folio: 263
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William Dall 47
Ann Dall 43
>>>>>Emma Dall 18 Surname on image for family is Dale
John Dall 15
William Dall 13
Lyda Dall 12
Joseph Dall 9
Mary Bailey 21
Hannah Bailey 1

farmer

farmer Report 26 Jun 2011 17:16

EMMAS MAIDEN NAME WAS RUTLEDGE FATHERS NAME JOHN RUTLEDGE BORN IN IRELAND 1801

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Jun 2011 17:11

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about George Dale
Name: George Dale
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1853
Registration district: Wolstanton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 113 (click to see others on page)
married emma rutledge

farmer

farmer Report 26 Jun 2011 17:06

YES 06 OCT1834 EMMA GEORGE1810 DONT KNOW A THING ABOUT THE OTHERS

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 26 Jun 2011 17:06

Emma's marriage to George Dale?

Marriages Mar 1853
>>>DALE George Wolstanton 6b 113
HARDING Emma Wolstanton 6b 113
>>>RUTLEDGE Emma Wolstanton 6b 113
TOMKINSON Henry Wolstanton 6b 113

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Jun 2011 17:04

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Emma Mould
Name: Emma Mould
[Emma Dale]
Gender: Female
Father's name: William Dale
Spouse's Name: John Stanyer
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Stanyer
Marriage Date: 20 Apr 1863
Marriage Place: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Emma Mould
Name: Emma Mould
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1863
Registration district: Wolstanton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 163 (click to see others on page)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Jun 2011 17:04

For reference, Emma in 1861?

DALE, William Head Married M 58 1803 Stone Getter ... Staffordshire
DALE, Ann Wife Married F 54 1807 Mow Cop Staffordshire
MOULD, Emma Daughter Widow F 28 1833 Sand Founder Mow Cop Staffordshire
MOULD, Geo Grandson M 9 1852 Mow Cop Staffordshire
MOULD, Elizabeth Granddaughter F 7 1854 Mow Cop Staffordshire
MOULD, Joseph Grandson M 4 1857 Mow Cop Staffordshire
MOULD, Sarah A Granddaughter F 0 (11M) 1861 Mow Cop Staffordshire

Registration District: Wolstanton
Sub District: 2 Tunstall
Enumeration District: 5
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Thomas Mow Cop

Civil Parish: Brieryhurst
Municipal Borough:

Address: Mow Cop, Brieryhurst County: Staffordshire

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Jun 2011 17:03

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Samuel Mould
Name: Samuel Mould
Gender: Male
Father's name: John Mould
Spouse's Name: Emma Dale
Spouse's Father's Name: William Dale
Marriage Date: 7 Dec 1857
Marriage Place: Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Samuel Mould
Name: Samuel Mould
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1857
Registration district: Wolstanton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 204 (click to see others on page)

Kuros

Kuros Report 26 Jun 2011 17:02

Have you looked on freebmd for the deaths and marriages? These entries will give you the numbers you need to order the certificates as long as they were before 1837.

farmer

farmer Report 26 Jun 2011 16:52

RE My gggrandmother was married 3 times


1 GEORGE DALE BORN 1810 MOWCOP STAFFS BRIDE EMMA RUTLEDGE BORN 1834
2SAMUEL MOLD NO BIRTH DETAILS WED EMMA DALE 1857 ST MARGRETS WOLSTANTON.

3 EMMA MOULD WED TO JOHN STANYER1863 ST MARGRETS WOLSTANTON

I NEED WEDDING DETAILS OF A THREE WEDDINGS AND THE DETAILS OF DEATH OF ALL THREE MEN . AFTER EMMA HAD LEFT ONE OF THESE MEN HE WAS FOUND DEAD UNDER SUSPIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES THE POLICE ASKED EMMA TO ID THE MAN

INEED TO GET ALL 3 WED CERTS
AND 3 DEATH CERTS FOR THE MEN ALL RECORDS IN WOLSTANTON AREA MANY THANKS FOR ANY HELP JOHN :-)