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spiderlegs...some more for her! From NLA Trove newspaper
The Sydney Morning Herald, Friday 9 October 1931
NEEDHAM.-October 7, 1931, at Coast Auxiliary Hospital, Randwick, Edward Allan (Jim), dearly loved husband of Ellen Needham, aged 49 years. Late tram perway.
He was buried at the Catholic Cemetery, Rookwood.
Ellen was known as Nellie.
Edwards's father Edwin had some connection with the Commonwealth Fish Markets in Redfern. Edwin was known as Ned. His wife Augusta died in 1921 in Redfern, daughter of Matthias and Ellen. (That is the Irish connection, but that doesn't mean there couldn't be Aboriginal blood in the Needham side!)
Edwin's mother Susan (nee GOODE) died in NSW on July 20, 1913 aged 72. Her father is only shown as John. (She could be the link).
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Susan's husband John died April 19, 1885 in Redfern, NSW, aged 69. At the time he was living at 66 Pitt St, Redfern. He was buried at Necropolis.
Lots of memoriam notices for Susan in the SMH.
No birth reg for Susan in NSW or Qld. Will check Vic, but may not be registered here (if at all).
Birth to John & Susan in Newtown, Vic before they moved to Qld:
1863/14363 William Needham
Births to John & Susan in rural Qld:
1865/C1361 Edwin Allan Needham, d. 1915 Redfern
1866/C1848 Matilda Susan Needham (m. Geo BURKE 1885), d. ?
1868/C2178 Frederick Alfred Needham (m. Margt F STOKELD 1900), d. 1925 Sydney
1870/C2776 Ernest John Needham (m. Mary BRYANT 1897), d. 1924 Redfern
1872/C2584 Louisa Needham, d. 1876/C2145
1875/C3338 Florence Needham (m. Fredk T ARGENT 1899), d. 1960 Ashfield
and then in Redfern, NSW:
1882/7965 Albert Hy (m. Esther M FAULKNER 1904), d. 1958 Burwood
1884/10435 Beatrice May (m. Chas Edward ARGENT 1900), d. 1941 Newtown
(Fredk & Chas ARGENT were brothers, sons of Stephen & Sarah)
So John was fathering chn quite late in life - and then up and died and left poor Susan with 7 children!
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A Susan GOODE arrived in Victoria aged 8 in 1849 aboard 'Tasman'.
Family were
John 37
Lucy 39
Mary 16
James 13
William 6
Sarah 3
Allan (infant)
The given name Allan is a strong clue here that this may be the right family. (There goes the Aboriginal connection!)
Allan (not Allen, as per shipping record) was born at sea.
They had another son named Richard b. c1851, d. Dec 1863 Geelong aged 12.
Lucy (nee BUTE) died in 1870 aged 60 (reg 6879), no parents names given. John died in Dec 1889 in Geelong, aged 76; parents shown as 'unknown'.
John, Lucy (says Louisa with Lucy in brackets) and Richard are all buried at Geelong Western Cemetery (Methodist section).
Just need to find John Needham's arrival now...b. c1840
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The IGI has a submitted record for John GOODE - born 1812 in Wisbeach, Cambridgeshire, died 22 Dec 1889 Geelong.
Married twice - first to Lucy BUTE in 1831 at Tydd St Giles and 2nd to Eliza ELTON.
There is a marriage for Jno GOODE (b. Cambridgeshire) to Eliza Sarah ELTON (b. Middlesex) in 1871 in Vic (reg 1270). Burial for Eliza Sarah Goode at Geelong Western Cemetery (C of E section) in 1903. Her death record shows she was 84 and her maiden name was BUCKLAND (dau of Thos & Eliza Sarah), so she must have been married twice as well.
See his page at http://home.mira.net/~merowley/goode/james.html
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And this looks like the family on the 1841 census. The shipping record states Wisbech and shows James as a farmer
1841 England Census
about James Goode <<<<Farmer
Name: James Goode
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England
Civil parish: Tydd St Giles
Hundred: Wisbeach (Isle of Ely)
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wisbech
Sub-registration district: Leverington
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 78
Book: 16
Folio: 5
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
John Goode 30
Lucey Goode 30
Thomas Goode 9
Marley Goode 8 (Mary)
James Goode 5
John Goode 4
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Great stuff, Ginny! :-)
Edwin & Ellen (Nellie) also had chn who died young and are interred with them at Rookwood, see http://www.catholiccemeteries.org.au/rookwood/rookwood.html
Lewis (Louis on death reg) W d. 1921 aged 1
Leslie W d. 1923 aged 15 months
Also:
Pauline d. 1916
Edwin A d. 1925 [b. 1907]
Adult chn's deaths:
John Ernest (m. Rita Constance SMITH 1947) d. 1963 Balmain
Harold James (m. Daphne Gwendoline D'ARCY 1951) d. 1977
Lillian Blanche b. 1909, d. 1978 [did not marry]
WWII enlistment
NEEDHAM HARRY JAMES : Service Number - NX143668 : Date of birth - 19 Oct 1923 : Place of birth - REDFERN NSW : Place of enlistment - IN THE FIELD VIC : Next of Kin - NEEDHAM E
siblings?
NEEDHAM HERBERT FRANCIS : Service Number - NX24955 : Date of birth - 08 Jul 1914 : Place of birth - REDFERN NSW : Place of enlistment - PADDINGTON NSW : Next of Kin - NEEDHAM KATHLEEN
NEEDHAM ROY : Service Number - NX53644 : Date of birth - 03 Nov 1917 : Place of birth - REDFERN NSW : Place of enlistment - PADDINGTON NSW : Next of Kin - NEEDHAM VIOLET
NEEDHAM JOHN EDWARD : Service Number - N54831 : Date of birth - 03 Jun 1917 : Place of birth - REDFERN NSW : Place of enlistment - FOREST LODGE NSW : Next of Kin - NEEDHAM ELLEN
Note John & Roy are twins!
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Her grandfather's death notice is listed at Ryerson Index
NEEDHAM William Joseph (Billy) Death notice 04NOV1991 Death at Arcadiavale, late of Sefton and Redfern Daily Telegraph (Sydney) 06NOV1991
also
NEEDHAM Herbert Francis Death notice 05JAN1985 Death late of Matraville Sydney Morning Herald 07JAN1985
NEEDHAM Harold James Death notice 25FEB1977 Death late of Darlington Sydney Morning Herald 28FEB1977
This one must be related
NEEDHAM Edwin Allen Death notice 08FEB1976 Death late of Redfern Sydney Morning Herald 09FEB1976
Go to http://www.ryersonindex.org/ for lookup requests of death notices
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thank you ladys
she's very lucky to get all this so its a good start....
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i know Ginny
im still trying to find my Irish 2x great grand mother Jane Ann Taylor b in sligo but somewhere between 1884 and 1886 ... she met her hubby...and we are thinking that her family ended up in India ..most likely because of the famine...and that's were my 2x great grandad William west was stationed with the 12 fusiliers
talk about hens teeth alright ...India is just as bad as not one single person in my family including those in England could find there marriage... like a needle in a hay stack lol but we are still lookin....... like loyal bees ;-)
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