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thanks margee. you are verry fast, i do know some truemans lived in joicey terrace ,i think possibly a couple of families much apprecieated all your help ed

confused as this robert in the census only has isabella, possibly isabella s brother born of robert & jessie thanks again ed

It is confusing, isn't it?
The only thing I can suggest is to buy Abraham's birth certificate:

Births Dec 1893 (>99%)
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Trueman Abraham Lanchester 10a 304

possible then that he is , isabella s brother thanks again ed

But where is he in 1901? I couldn't find him on the census.

1911??
It looks like Trueman on image.

MORLEY, Jno Head Married M 59 1852 Blacksmith Colling Jarrow Durham
MORLEY, Margate Wife Married
39 years F 60 1851 Morley Hill Durham
MORLEY, Ethel Daughter Single F 20 1891 Beamish Durham
TOURMAN, Abraham Relative Single M 18 1893 Miner Hewer Below Ground Stanley Durham

Registration District:
Chester Le Street Sub District:
Chester Le Street Enumeration District:
20 Parish:
Urpeth

Address:
Quality Row Beamish S O County:
Durham

1901
MORLEY, John Head Married M 49 1852 Blacksmith
Chester Le ST
Durham
MORLEY, Margaret Wife Married F 50 1851
Durham
MORLEY, William Son Single M 23 1878 Banksman Surface
Urpeth
Durham
MORLEY, John Son Single M 17 1884 Rope Minder Surface
Urpeth
Durham
MORLEY, Thomas Son M 13 1888 Colly General Labourer
Urpeth
Durham
MORLEY, Ethel Daughter F 10 1891
Urpeth
Durham
TRUEMAN, A Friend 7 1894
Lanchester
Durham
YOUNG, Ada Friend 13 1888
Urpeth
Durham

Registration District:
Chester Le Street Sub District:
Chester Le Street Enumeration District:
19 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Pauls West Pelton

Civil Parish:
Urpeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
8, Quality Row, Urpeth, Beamish County:

Does not say wether female or male for A Trueman or Ada Young on image.

this certainly looks likely to be the abraham trueman, there is only 2 mile from stanley to beamish, there was also a morley mentioned as a possible marriage to his father robert trueman b 1870 thank you verry much to fanny & margee ed

can anyone find who robert trueman married in lanchester ,1899 i know he married jessie ledger1890 thanks ed

This is where most of us search Ed

http://freebmd.org.uk

As it says ..It is free.

Have you tried it?
Click on the page number to see other people on the same page.

And found him on 1901 to see who he was with?

And I do think that you will find it all already on this thread further back?

as i cant find a death for hannah trueman ??marriage but i can find death for hannah morley who were together in 1901 census as truemans thanks ed

As posted by Margee.


Marriages Dec 1899

Morley Mary Hannah Lanchester 10a 531
Trueman Robert Lanchester 10a 531


And as Abraham was with the Morleys on 1901 and 1911 I would say that Hannah on 1901 and 1911 used her second name instead of her first name of Mary on census.
The 1899 marriage also fits with them being married 11 years as it says on 1911 and this death fits with her age and Birth name and year of Mary Hannah.

From Freebmd.

Deaths Sep 1926
Trueman Mary H 51 Gateshead 10a 725

sorry one more problem ,she was alive, in 1950 she was my great grandmother thanks again ed

Mary Hannah Trueman was alive in 1950 when you were 3 years old do you mean?

If you know the year and place of death then why dont you give it please and then we can start searching properly for the refs instead of guessing?

When and where did Robert Trueman c1870 die?
Did she remarry if he died before her?

It would be far better if you give ALL the info you have at the start of a further request for a lookup rather than after as it saves a lot of time.
I dont mind looking at all,but ALL the info is good as I/we dont know what you know unless you tell me/us
Thank you
Fan

sorry i dont know year of death, i can only think she died stanley which is north west durham where she lived thank you for your help and patience not the brightest ed

Im sorry but the 1926 one is the only one I can see that MAY be her.

I have double checked a Mary J Trueman born C1875 who died in 1963 on 1911 census and Mary J Trueman is on it with her husband...So you know that is NOT her.

Maybe a trip to the local records office to where she died would turn up her death refs?

forgot to say yes she was alive when i was 12 ? there was 4 generations alive from my niece to hannah thanks again ed

So she died about 1959 then I would think?
All I can suggest is that a trip to the records office may turn something up.

IF she remarried if Robert died before her then she would be indexed under her new married surname.
And I would say that she was your Step Grandmother really as she was not Isabellas or Abrahams mother and had no children with Robert so is therefore not a blood relation?
Unless she had some after 1911 of course,which I have not checked for.

robert died c1955 hannah would have been 80 ,doubt remarried, but possible, as you say not a blood relation, but a big ? over her death name i thank you again for your:,time doing search, and your patience, espceially with me ,you have the patience of a saint ed

A saint I am not and Patience is not my strong point...So when I start shouting at you, you will understand I hope..

Name: TRUEMAN, Robert
Registration District: Durham North Western
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1955
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 85
Volume No: 1A
Page No: 512

I would suggest that you send for that to get the address from it and to see if Hannah was the informant and if so how she signed herself?

Also as I said before...A trip to the Records office may throw up something.
Or you can ask the Reg Office that Roberts death was reg at to have a search for Hannah or Mary Hannah Trueman at around the time you say she died as she is def not coming up on idex that I and others have access to..

thanks again, will have to do as you say, or you might shout at me , i have gained a lot of information on truemans,for which i am verry gratefull for your help ed