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I'm not sure what I did wrong but I'll repeat the message
I have an Elijah Palfreyman born 1799 in Warwick whose father I know from his marriage to be Charles a brickmaker. I can't find Charles on any census and therefore wonder if anyone with access to the parish records could find out who Elijah's mother was.Thanks.

Shanette.
Do you mean he was born in the town of Warwick or the county of Warwickshire?
It´s quite a common name in Birmingham.

Elijah Palfreyman
England and Wales Census, 1861

birth: 1799 —Warwick
residence: 1861 —Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
census: 1861 —Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1861
name: Elijah Palfreyman
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 62
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Warwick
record type: Household
registration district: Birkenhead
sub-district: 1 Birkenhead
ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
civil parish: Birkenhead

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Elijah Palphraman
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Civil parish: Birkenhead
Hundred: Wirrall (Lower Division)
County/Island: Cheshire
Household Members: Name Age
Charles H Howell 14
Elijah Palphraman 40
Elizabeth Palphraman 15
Elijah Palphraman 13
Harriett Palphraman 10
William Polphrman 7
Mary Ann Polphrman 5

This is an interesting combination of names?

residence: Warwick, England
parents: Charles Mann, Elizabeth Palphry

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Elijah Mann
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 12 Apr 1799
baptism/christening place: SHERBORNE,WARWICK,ENGLAND
father's name: Charles Mann
mother's name: Elizabeth Palphry
indexing project (batch) number: C04384-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 555352

Thanks for replies. Yes Astra that's a weird coincidence isn't it.I wonder if it could be mine? I've seen so many spellings over the years of this name.This would explain why I can't find out anything about Charles.

It was just a thought that he may have used his mother's maiden name as a middle name therefore being Elijah Palphrey Mann. You never know.

Or maybe his parents weren't married? The next clue I have about Elijah is that he moved to Cheshire and attended both Stockport and Macclesfield sunday schools.

I have Elijah's marriage cert and on it his father is named as Charles Palfreyman but having said that maybe he couldn't write .

I can't find any death or census record for an Elijah Mann so this theory is looking more likely.

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1851
SOURBUTS, Richard Head Married M 29 1822 Beer Seller Great Harwood Lancashire
SOURBUTS, Harriot Wife Married F 29 1822 Hardsley Yorkshire
SOURBUTS, Mary Ann Daughter F 4 1847 Scholar Newton Cheshire
SOURBUTS, John E Son M 1 1850 Hyde Cheshire
PALPHFRYMAN, Elijah Lodger Married M 54 1797 Bricklayer Warwick
PALPHFRYMAN, Jane Lodger Married F 49 1802 Washer Woman Isle of Man
HARRISON, Sarah Ann Lodger Unmarried F 19 1832 Dress Maker Hardsley Yorkshire

RG number: HO107 Piece: 2154 Folio: 333 Page: 9
Registration District: Stockport Sub District: Hyde Enumeration District: 2B Ecclesiastical Parish: St Marys Stockport
Civil Parish: Hyde Municipal Borough: Address: George Street, Hyde County: Cheshire

Marriage: 1 Nov 1841 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Elijah Palfreyman - (X), full Bricklayer Widower of Sawneypope St.
Jane Smith - (X), full Widow of Edmund Street
Groom's Father: Charles Palfreyman, Brick Maker
Bride's Father: John Alexander, Butcher
Witness: Samuel Birchall; Harriet Crighton, (X)
Married by Banns by: John Cheetham M. A. Curate
Register: Marriages 1841 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 158, Entry 424
Source: LDS Film 1068927

Deaths Mar 1856 (>99%)
Palfreyman Elijah Manchester 8d 159
Deaths Dec 1867 (>99%)
Palfreyman Elijah 66 Bramham 9c 399
Deaths Mar 1886 (>99%)
Palfreyman Elijah 58 Birkenhead 8a 377

Thanks Pam. My Elijah had a son Elijah and his death is the 1886 one in Birkenhead. Elijah senior died in 1872 as a pauper.
I keep hoping that someone has access to the parish records of All Saints in Sherbourne Warwick.

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Groom's Name: Charles Palphfrey Mann
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
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Bride's Name: Elizabeth Burrows
Bride's Birth Date:
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Marriage Date: 07 Sep 1795
Marriage Place: Sherbourne, Warwick, Stafford, England
Groom's Father's Name:
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03881-4
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 328829
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