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23 Jul 2011 00:01 |
Hi there,
I beleive I may have found my ancestor Martha Peers. I suspect she is the same Martha Peers who is buried in Nantwich, Cheshire on 31 May 1866. She was 83. From this age she was born c. 1783.
Can anyone spot her in the census please in 1841, 1851 and 1861.
I don't know much about her family so all info is much appreciated.
Her maiden name was Minshal and she married William Peers on 21st Sep. 1806 in Nantwich, three months before my ancestor, their daugher Elizabeth Peers was baptised on 8th Dec. 1806. I have her children's baptisms but nothing else.
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Peter
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Ozibird
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23 Jul 2011 00:18 |
1841 England Census Name: Martha Peres [Looks like Peers on image] Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781 Gender: Female Where born: Cheshire, England Civil parish: Nantwich Hundred: Nantwich County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: Barker Street
Occupation: Washerwoman
Registration district: Nantwich Sub-registration district: Nantwich Piece: 117 Book: 2 Folio: 15 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Martha Peres 60 Timothy Peres 25 - Shoemaker J[ourneyman] Abraham Peres 20 - Shoemaker J[ourneyman]
1851 England Census Name: Martha Peers Age: 70 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781 Relation: Head Gender: F (Female) Where born: Nantwich, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Nantwich Town: Nantwich County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: Barker Street
Occupation: Washerwoman
Condition as to marriage: widow
Registration district: Nantwich Sub-registration district: Wybunbury Piece: 2169 Folio: 593 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Martha Peers 70 Abraham Peers 33 - son; shoemaker; Nantwich Edward Peers 3 - grandson; Nantwich Ann Jones 62 - Lodger; Laundress
1861 England Census Name: Martha Peers Age: 78 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1783 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Nantwich, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Nantwich County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: Barker St
Occupation: Receiving Parochial Relief
Condition as to marriage: widow
Registration district: Nantwich Sub-registration district: Nantwich Piece: 2619 Folio: 66 Page Number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Martha Peers 78 Abraham Peers 40 - County Court Bailiff Edward Peers 4 [I think it is 11 rather than 4]- Errand Boy Ann Jones 66 - Boarder; Receiving Parochial Relief
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Peter
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23 Jul 2011 00:19 |
Thanks Ozibird. I do knw that Martha had a son named Ambraham baptised in Nantwich on 18th January 1816, so do you think this is the same family?
The ages do not quite match up.
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23 Jul 2011 00:22 |
I can't find Timothy again, perhaps ....
Deaths Mar 1845 PEERS Timothy Nantwich 19 154 OR
Deaths Sep 1849 Peers Timothy Nantwich 19 131
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23 Jul 2011 00:26 |
This looks like Edward Peers' baptism:
Edward Peers
England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000 residence: 14 Feb 1849 —, Nantwich, Cheshire, England parents: /, Sarah Peers record title: England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000 name: Edward Peers event: Christening event date: 14 Feb 1849 event place: Nantwich, Cheshire, England gender: Male mother: Sarah Peers digital folder number: 4018984
BUT, I don't have a Sarah Peers in my tree. All of the children I have for William and Martha Peers are:
Elizabeth Peers (my ancestor, b. 1806) Ann Peers b. 1809 Timothy Peers b. 1811 William Peers b. 1812 John Peers 1815-1815 Abraham Peers 1816-1893 Mary Peers b. 1818 John Peers b. 1821
What do people think?
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23 Jul 2011 00:28 |
I can't find Timothy again, perhaps ....
Deaths Mar 1845 PEERS Timothy Nantwich 19 154 OR
Deaths Sep 1849 Peers Timothy Nantwich 19 131
... bur 31 March 1845 aged 78 ... bur 6 Aug 1849 aged 40
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Ozibird
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23 Jul 2011 00:29 |
Definitely your family I would say with both Timothy and Abraham. Also only Martha Peers of that age in Nantwich registration district.
I've edited the censuses so that they are in chronological order in the same post.
Ozi
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Ozibird
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23 Jul 2011 00:30 |
Aaaah, second one is your Timothy.
I'll look for older one on census.
Ozi
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23 Jul 2011 00:34 |
Hmmm, maybe the just were not very good at remembering birth days. You will noticed Timothy Peers seems to have died in 1849 but the age is not 'correct'.
Also, how have I missed Sarah Peers?
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Ozibird
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23 Jul 2011 00:35 |
1841 England Census Name: Timothy Pears Age: 70 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1771 Gender: Male Where born: Cheshire, England Civil parish: Nantwich Hundred: Nantwich County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: Love Lane
Occupation: Tailor
Registration district: Nantwich Sub-registration district: Nantwich Piece: 117 Book: 2 Folio: 14 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Timothy Pears 70
Brother-in-law to Martha do you think? A relative by marriage anyway.
Don't get too caught up on ages. They are not very accurate, and in 1841 ages were usually rounded down to the nearest 5 years for those over 15.
Ozi
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23 Jul 2011 00:44 |
Perhaps Sarah was a widow of one of the sons when she gave birth to Edward.
Are those dates for the children birth dates or baptism?
Ozi
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23 Jul 2011 00:46 |
???? Only 3 years after John.
record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Sarah Peers gender: Female baptism/christening date: 24 Jan 1824 baptism/christening place: Nantwich, Cheshire, England father's name: William Peers mother's name: Martha Peers
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23 Jul 2011 00:48 |
Hi Ozibird, yeah I had thought Sarah could be a widow but I don't know.
The birth dates of the children are baptism dates.
Also, these baptisms are taken for Cheshire on the IGI on a search from 1760-1800:
2. MARTHA MINSHULL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 17 NOV 1780 Nantwich, Cheshire, England 3. MARTHA MINSHULL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 28 JAN 1781 Saint Chad,Over, , Cheshire, England 4. MARTHA MINSHALL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 08 AUG 1784 Whitegate, Cheshire, England
There are another two ... one in 1766 and one in 1798. The one in Nantwich seems probable but as the other two are in the local area I am cautious to say the baptism in 1780 is definitley the one related to me.
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23 Jul 2011 00:52 |
Oh wow, I have never seen the 1824 baptism!
Thank you for checking for me. I did a search of the family using the batch index sometime ago. Nothing like human error (although at which end of the process this was made, I am not sure). Maybe I just missed her or perhaps more records were added later.
Now, my research shows that William Peers died about 12 Sep. 1823 in Nantwich and he was 49, so perhaps this is why there was some difficulty with the baptism?
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23 Jul 2011 01:02 |
At a guess, I would say your Martha is the 1870 baptism. That fits with her most consistent age, and she's recorded as being born in Nantwich itself.
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23 Jul 2011 01:06 |
1871 England Census Name: Edward Peers Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary J Peers Gender: Male Where born: Nantwich, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Nantwich Ecclesiastical parish: Nantwich Town: Nantwich County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: Hospital St
Registration district: Nantwich Sub-registration district: Nantwich Piece: 3713 Folio: 131 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Edward Peers 20 - Cordwainer Mary J Peers 19 - Seamstress; Nantwich
1881 England Census Name: Edward Peers Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Jane Peers Gender: Male Where born: Nantwich, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Nantwich County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: 92 Hospital St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Cordwainer Shoemaker <<<<<<<
Registration district: Nantwich Sub-registration district: Nantwich Piece: 3548 Folio: 29 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Edward Peers 32 Mary Jane Peers 26 William Peers 4 Elizabeth Peers 2 Edward Peers
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23 Jul 2011 01:18 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%) Galley William Nantwich 8a 429 Scan available - click to view Hilditch Ann Nantwich 8a 429 Scan available - click to view Hulse Mary Jane Nantwich 8a 429 Scan available - click to view PEERS Edward Nantwich 8a 429 Scan available - click to view
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Peter
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23 Jul 2011 01:22 |
Thanks Ozibird, all of this help is much appreciated. I obviously have a lot of new leads to work!
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23 Jul 2011 01:25 |
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1851 England Census Name: Sarah Peers Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Servant Gender: F (Female) Where born: Nantwich, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Broughton Town: Broughton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 70 Kew Place
Occupation: House servant [hard work with all that lot!]
Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Broughton ED, institution, or vessel: 1h Piece: 2222 Folio: 194 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age John Whitlow 51 - tea and coffee dealer Sarah Whitlow 50 Mary Whitlow 26 Elizabeth Whitlow 24 Lucy Whitlow 22 Esther Whitlow 20 Charles H Whitlow 16 Samuel Whitlow 15 Hannah Whitlow 10 John Whitlow 8 Sarah Peers 25 Mary M Kanna 39
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23 Jul 2011 01:33 |
Phew I bet that was hard work! Hmmm, I suppose that must be her!
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