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Hi Alan,
It's a pleasure to help you but don't forget that this is all based on the findings of someone else.
The tree on ancestry has the father as Daniel, this could be proved by buying Freda's marriage cert. but it will not give you her mother's name.
The only way to be absolutely sure about her name is by buying the birth cert., but, with the mother's maiden name given on Freda's birth record it does all seem to fit very nicely together.
Thanks for the heart that makes it all worth while.
Catherine X

Catherine and Ozibird,

I cannot thank you both enough for your sterling work contribution ,on this project of mine


Alan <3 <3

Yes, all seems to fit quite nicely! :-)

Death of Ada ? :-

Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%)
HOWES Ada 32 Kidderminster 6c 96

Possible death of John Farmer:-

Deaths Dec 1907 (>99%)
Farmer John 39 Droitwich 6c 192

1901 England Census
Name: Daniel Howes
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ada Howes
Gender: Male
Where born: N, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Ombersley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ambrose
Town: Eden Farm and Northampton and Woodfield
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Northampton

Occupation: Shepherd

Registration district: Droitwich <<<<<
Sub-registration district: Ombersley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 101
Piece: 2794
Folio: 37
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Howes 27
Ada Howes 25 - Stone, Worcestershire
Albert J Howes 5 - Stone, Worcestershire
Frank Howes 3 - Ruyton Towns, Shropshire
Winifred Howes 1 - Stone, Worcestershire

All coming together now, Cath & Alan.

1911 for the Jane Farmer noted earlier:-

FARMER, Jane Head Widow F 41 1870 Elmley Lovett Worcestershire VIEW
FARMER, Martin Son Single M 17 1894 Waggoners Boy On Farm Elmley Lovett Worcestershire VIEW
FARMER, Dorothy L Daughter F 12 1899 School Elmley Lovett Worcestershire VIEW
FARMER, Mildred M Daughter F 6 1905 School Elmbridge Worcestershire VIEW
HARRIS, Henry Boarder Widower M 40 1871 Waggoner On Farm Blackwell Worcestershire VIEW
HARRIS, Voilet Boarder F 6 1905 School Kings Morton VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17765 Reference:
RG14PN17765 RG78PN1087 RD381 SD2 ED10 SN38

Registration District:
Droitwich Sub District:
Droitwich Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Elmbridge

Address:
Broad Common Elmbridge Droitwich County:
Worcestershire

1911

HOWES, Daniel Head Widower M 37 1874 Waggoner On Farm Derby VIEW
HOWES, Frank Son M 13 1898 School Rugton 11 Towns Salop VIEW
HOWES, Winifred Daughter F 11 1900 School Stone Worcestershire VIEW
HOWES, Alfred Son M 9 1902 School Ombersley Worcestershire VIEW
HOWES, Dennis Son M 7 1904 School Ombersley Worcestershire VIEW
HOWES, Vincent Son M 5 1906 School Oldington Worcestershire VIEW
PEASE, Ada Servant Single F 28 1883 Working Houskeeper Not Known VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16840 Reference:
RG14PN16840 RD366 SD1 ED14 SN6A

Registration District:
Tamworth Sub District:
Tamworth Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Clifton Campville and Haunton

Address:
The Bandlands Clifton Campville Tamworth County:
Staffordshire

Possibly John & Jane's daughter which fits with what's been found so far.
Births Dec 1904
Farmer Mildred Mary Droitwich 6c 333

Marriages Dec 1926
Farmer Mildred M Smith Kidderminster 6c 154

Also this which fits possible age.
Deaths Mar 1949
Howes Daniel 75 Kidderminster 9d 179

But as said before, this is clever guesswork, and only a cert will verify.

Ozi

Ozibird,
Your now in full flow ,Great!
Alan

1911: FARMER JANE F 1870 41 Droitwich Worcestershire

Possibly these people with her.
FARMER JOHN M 1878 33 Droitwich Worcestershire
FARMER MARTIN M 1894 17 Droitwich Worcestershire
FARMER DOROTHY L F 1899 12 Droitwich Worcestershire
FARMER MILDRED M F 1905 6 Droitwich Worcestershire
FARMER ANNIE EDITH F 1906 5 Droitwich Worcestershire
FARMER CHARLES JOHN M 1908 3 Droitwich Worcestershire
FARMER WILLIAM JOSEPH M 1910 1 Droitwich Worcestershire

1871 England Census
Name: Jane Hardman [Jane Hurdman]
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Hardman
Mother's name: Emma Hardman
Gender: Female
Where born: Elmley Lovett, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Elmley Lovett
Ecclesiastical parish: Worcester
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Droitwich
Sub-registration district: Ombersley
Piece: 3068
Folio: 125
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hardman 27
Emma Hardman 26
Millie Wentler 4
Jane Hardman 1
Elizabeth Hardman 8 Months

The comment with the name correction: Jane Hurdman was my great grandmother, all other references to her under her maiden name are correct.
Submitted by HenryMatthews69 on 19/08/2009

BatMansDaughter the information just gets better,you have given me the two marriages now .Most grateful

Well done, BD.

I'd found the 1913 marriage, but not the 1891. Hadn't gone back far enough.

Ozi

Record Name Spouse Surname Date of Registration Registration district County (inferred)

Jane Farmer Howes Apr-May-Jun 1913 Droitwich Worcestershire
Daniel Howes Farmer Apr-May-Jun 1913 Droitwich Worcestershire


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
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Farmer John Droitwich 6c 549
Hurdman Jane Droitwich 6c 549

Marriages Sep 1936
Howes Freda A Richards Kidderminster 6c 360

Catherine,

Thank you i think this information seems promising.
Brilliant

Alan

Daniel Howes records show following:-

Spouse & Children

Ada Andrews
1876 – 1908

Albert J Howes
1896 –

Frank Howes
1898 –

Winifred Howes
1899 –

Freda is given as a child to another spouse as Ada died in 1908.

Someone on Ancestry has this:-

Freda A Howes

Birth 1914 in Cannock, Staffordshire, England
Death Nov 1991 in Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England


Father's name:- Daniel Howes
1874 – 1949

........................no mother's name is given

Death is given as this:-

Name: Freda Annie Richards
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1914
Date of Registration: Nov 1991
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Kidderminster
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 29
Page: 550

and birth:-

Name: Freda A Howes
Mother's Maiden Name: Hurdman
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1914
Registration district: Cannock
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1052

Catherine and Ozibird,

Thank You both for your information
Alan