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Betty Evelyn James

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PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 25 Jul 2011 16:10

Hello,
I am looking for a birth or any marriage records for a Betty Evelyn James[registered on her death cert as Betty Evelyn Cant] She was my G Grandmother who I would like to get to know a bit better throu her ancestry etc and I don't know much about her other than people think she was born in London, perhaps around 1920 and that Betty James was probably her name...I don't know certain marriage dates so it is hard to find those either, she married Lesley Dickens and later an Arthur Cant, and she brought her children and lived until she died in Southampton, Hampshire.
Can anyone help or does anyone have any ideas?
Regards, Pippa x

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 25 Jul 2011 16:15

Just found her death cert again, says DOB 10 Feb 1915. :)

Helen

Helen Report 25 Jul 2011 16:19

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Arthur R Cant
Name: Arthur R Cant
Spouse Surname: Cant Or Dickens Or James
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952
Registration district: Gosport
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 677
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 25 Jul 2011 16:22

This one is Bessie rather than Betty:

Name: Bessie E James
Spouse Surname: Dickens
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1933
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 840

Spouse: Alfred L Dickens James Apr-May-Jun 1933 Willesden Middlesex .

Middle name of Alfred might be Leslie?

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 25 Jul 2011 16:23

Name: Bessie E James
Spouse Surname: Cant
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952
Registration district: Gosport
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 677

Spouse: Arthur R Cant Cant Or Dickens Or James Jan-Feb-Mar 1952 Gosport Hampshire

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 25 Jul 2011 16:24

Bessie? wow, do you think it was a mis spelling or something?

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 25 Jul 2011 16:25

Birth: JAMES Bessie E Williamson Willesden 3a 635 mar 1915

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 25 Jul 2011 16:25

oh and thankyou btw, I am highly pleased with the info :)))

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 25 Jul 2011 16:29

oh my goodness, well that all seems to fit in! As a child, she always said her name was Betty....not Bessie! What a cheeky fibber my Nan was! so interesting :) thanks, all makes sense now searching bessie and not betty...

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jul 2011 16:31

Theres no marriages listed for a Betty James to Leslie Dickens(Lesley is the female spelling!)

wonder if this is her
Name: Bessie E James
Spouse Surname: Dickens
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1933
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 840
Find Spouse: Alfred L Dickens (second name could be leslie)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jul 2011 16:32

Whoops i hadnt refreshed!! :-(

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 25 Jul 2011 16:32

Thanks, I am guessing that it is!!...and Leslie[perhaps that is how he spelt it] I never knew he was called Alfred!! Gee whizz...

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jul 2011 16:34

possible birth?

Name: Bessie E James
Mother's Maiden Name: Williamson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1915
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 635

possible marriage to fit with above birth:-

Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)
JAMES William Williamson Willesden 3a 541
WILLIAMSON Elizabeth JAMES Willesden 3a 541

marriage cert. will confirm father's name!

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 25 Jul 2011 16:35

Already submitted that birth Catherine :-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jul 2011 16:35

possible parents but you would need to crosscheck with her birth cert
Name: William James
Spouse Surname: Williamson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1912
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 541
Elizabeth Williamson


Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2011 16:39

Possible parents marriage

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)
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JAMES William Williamson Willesden 3a 541
WILLIAMSON Elizabeth JAMES Willesden 3a 541


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Elizabeth Williamson Name: Elizabeth Williamson
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Spouse Name: William James (Milkman)
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 04 Nov 1912
Parish: St Andrew, Willesden
County: London
Borough: Brent
Father Name: Henry Edward Williamson (Coachman)
Spouse Father Name: John James (Labourer)




Andy

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Jul 2011 16:40

So it is Kucinta. Great minds and all that!

Did she have any siblings?

If yes, then their birth's could confirm mother's maiden name!

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 25 Jul 2011 16:40

thankyou :)) and Elizabeth as her Mother's name is interesting...someone told me she was called Elizabeth really and not Betty, but Bessie does sound more like it. Wondering if Evelyn was even her real middle name now.
What happens if someone is registered dead by the wrong name? Because I don't even think my Father knew her name was actually Bessie...unless she changed it by depol..will have to look into that.

PippaMelanie

PippaMelanie Report 25 Jul 2011 16:42

Hi Catherine, no idea about siblings...she never spoke about them, I was only 8 when she died unfortunately so didn't ask too many questions and neither of my parents have any idea other than what I said in the first post sadly..I think all her children and her children's children just know what she told them, which seems not all to be the truth.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Jul 2011 16:45

It doesnt look like there were any siblings. As she seemed to have been known as Betty the registering her as that name on her death cert isnt a problem .