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1911 census

Address: 5 Parkfield Road Willesden Green N W

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

JAMES, John Head Married M 49 1862 General Labour Amersham Bucks
JAMES, Mary Ann Wife Married 25 years F 48 1863 Laundry's Eddington Wilts
JAMES, Florence May Daughter Single F 15 1896 Work At Home Willesden Middlesex
JAMES, Lavina Daughter Single F 9 1902 School Willesden Middlesex
PAILECHINDEN, Harry Boarder Single M 28 1883 Carman Lydenham

Surname Forename Year of birth Place of birth Location in 1911 Individual
Household
James John 1862 Amersham Bucks Willesden View


Any chance anyone could look up this census record for me? I cant view it for some reason, even tho I have credits.

I have a feeling that perhaps both the Williamsons and the James families were gypsies..I have tried to find her parents and grandparents, sometimes i find matching names an dates[some naming some as travelers], other years I dont find them in the census....so confusing.

Hi guys,
Still trying to go back further with my Great Gran, whilst trying to find her parents on a census I somehow led myself onto a Williamson family in Kent and knowing she at least and her Mother came from London I am not exactly sure I was correct with that, I have found that I will be given a letter written by Elizabeth, my Great Grans Mum that talks about her life in Willesden, so that should be interesting, my Dad says he knows nothing, and still waiting to hear anything about this side of my family from the one person I do know kinda, in Canada. Any help anyone here could give me to go back further into my Great Grans Mums family[for now.] would be appreciated.
This is what I know so far from your guys help and my own research:

Birth: JAMES Bessie E Williamson Willesden 3a 635 mar 1915
[My Great Gran who lied about her name lol]

JAMES William Williamson Willesden 3a 541
WILLIAMSON Elizabeth JAMES Willesden 3a 541
Name: Elizabeth Williamson
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Spouse Name: William James (Milkman)
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 04 Nov 1912
Parish: St Andrew, Willesden
County: London
Borough: Brent
Father Name: Henry Edward Williamson (Coachman)
Spouse Father Name: John James (Labourer)
[Quite likely to be her parents]

Name: Bessie E James
Spouse Surname: Dickens
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1933
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 840

Spouse: Alfred L Dickens James Apr-May-Jun 1933 Willesden Middlesex .

Name: Bessie E James
Spouse Surname: Cant
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952
Registration district: Gosport
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 677

Spouse: Arthur R Cant Cant Or Dickens Or James Jan-Feb-Mar 1952 Gosport Hampshire
[Her two marriages, first one is my Great Grandfather]

Died Betty Evelyn Cant in 1998 in Southampton.

thanks :)

it's on freebmd.org.uk

here's the quick link, you would need to order the cert from www.gro.gov.uk to read and check the details match, it may also confirm what the E stands for

http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?r=132891882&d=bmd_1310461961

Birth: JAMES Bessie E Williamson Willesden 3a 635 mar 1915
Is there any way to find out more about this birth now? I cannot find it on bmd.

Thankyou, Am now trying to find a death for Florence Dickens nee Johnson, non of the ones I have seen seem to add up age wise...can anyone do any better than me?
I have no idea if she remarried, but assume she died a dickens, and as for her husband, cannot find his death either..

Florence was born 1890 Paddington
Alfred born 1891 Hendon or Acton, Middxx

Death that ties in with the 1918 birth for Cissie M Hills, that Catherine posted:

Name: Cissie Maisie Dickens
Birth Date: 31 Oct 1918
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1978
Age at Death: 59
Registration district: Torbay
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 21
Page: 2200

Thankyou, yup those were my Grandmother's siblings, I am in contact with one, the other I think is probably dead...

This would fit with the marriage I found and info posted by Kucinta:-

Marriages Jun 1937 (>99%)
Hills Cissie M Passmore Essex S.W. 4a 805
Passmore Leonard A Hills Essex S.W. 4a 805

so looks as though Cissie was probably born Hills and became Passmore when she married Leonard.


possible?
Births Dec 1918 (98%)
Hills Cissie M Wood West Ham 4a 633

If that's your Grandmother, then these must be her siblings?

Name: Pamela B Dickens
Mother's Maiden Surname: James
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1933
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 504

Name: Terence L Dickens
Mother's Maiden Surname: James
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1937
Registration district: Brentford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 514

Births Mar 1939 (>99%)
Dickens Irene E James Brentford 3a 423

Think I found a DOB for my Grandmother, and place...I know she died early this year, or late last year...can you look up that recent deaths online?

Following on from Catherine:

Name: Cissie M Passmore
Spouse Surname: Dickens
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 5e
Page Number: 451

Name: Cissie M Hills
Spouse Surname: Dickens
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 5e
Page Number: 451

Can't see any children for the marriage

If Bessie remarried, then I'm wondering if Alfred also remarried?

Name: Alfred L Dickens
Spouse Surname: Passmore Or Hills
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 5e
Page Number: 451
Find Spouse:

Thanks, sounds interesting...didn't know he was still alive in 1999...be interesting to see if he remarried etc..

Possible marriage of parents:

Marriages Sep 1909
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DICKENS Alfred Hendon 3a 620
JOHNSON Florence Hendon 3a 620

You do need to check this out with Alfred junior's marriage certificate for name and occupation of father, and possibly Alfred junior's age;

census 1911:

DICKENS, Alfred Head Married M 21 1890 Hotel Potman And Barman Willesden Middxx
DICKENS, Florence Wife Married 1 years F 20 1891 Paddington London
>>>DICKENS, Alfred Lislie Son Single M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Acton Midxx

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6958 Reference:
RG14PN6958 RG78PN345 RD128 SD6 ED7 SN504

Registration District:
Brentford Sub District:
Acton Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Acton

Address:
11 Goldsmith Road Acton County:
Middlesex

1911 Alfred?

Name: Alfred Leslie Dickens
Birth Date: 31 Jan 1911
Date of Registration: Apr 1999
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Bournemouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Register number: E11D
District and Subdistrict: 4271E
Entry number: 290


Birth: Dickens Alfred L Brentford 3a 217 Mar 1911.