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Congratulations Susan!
Hope you have just as much luck finding your son-in-laws family! Would be great wouldn't it?
Marina

Thank you all you are amazing, sorry not got back been doing exams for work...I passed so more free time foe research xx :-D

Susan,
I started what I thought might be a near impossible task putting my FH together - no family alive on either side to ask & an only child from the relevant marriage. I started with my own full birth certificate & then approached the local outlet of the Dept. of Internal Affairs here in NZ. They were so helpful & with their support & encouragement off I went. The city library supplies excellent resources & when I felt more confident I joined up with GR.

The help column, closely followed by Hot Matches & some wonderful fellow searchers have me well on my way.

Remember however to read everything you can get your hands on related to the social history of each new forebear & the whole journey becomes alive. I'm underway with my husband's family using the same approach & it really works!

All the best of luck Susan

Lois :-)

"the irish conection is via robert basely's farther he was from ireland originaly but came over via goverment relocation he had a new last name given to him and goverment pension and lived off that till he died"

so Baseley is the 'new' name?

but have to say it sounds very unlikely, certainly if we're talking about the early 1800s?

Both Robert Baseley and wife Ruth nee Potts, and Robert's father also Robert Baseley c1840 Birmingham, and grandfather Thomas Baseley c1806 Warwickshire seem to trace back to English roots.

hello

it was isaac jones married to a alice mary baseley
david jones (farther of isaac) married to jayne benbo
robert basely (father of alice) married to ruth

the irish conection is via robert basely's farther he was from ireland originaly but came over via goverment relocation he had a new last name given to him and goverment pension and lived off that till he died

hope that helps and thank you for trying
susan

I'm giving up too - want my supper! Dea's going to be disappointed in the morning!

Can't see anything relating to Ireland in the pension records, but may have missed it because I'm not good at reading the handwriting.

Was just going to say I'm taking a break for the evening on this one. It's so darned hot here-my glasses keep fogging up and sliding down my nose. Can't see a thing!

Maureenxx

Lookjs like you two are going to be 'at it' all night on this one - Go for it !! - you are 'on a roll' ;-)

I will catch up with you with great interest in the morning.

Dea Xxx

Good find!

5ft 7 1/2 in Blue eyes, brown hair, fresh complexion, 127 lb, a miner.

Finding it hard to read the writing. Wonder if he served in Ireland at all, and whether that might be the root of the family story.

It confirms that his father was also Robert, and it also confirms the marriage to Ruth Potts, 25/10/1908 St Luke's Church, Cannock

Also children

Alice Mary 20.8.09

Thomas 15.10.10

Ruth 25.10.14

Robert 9.8.13

Ellen 11.1.18

Looks like Robert Baseley's pension records are on Ancestry.

Maureen

Death:

Name: Alice Mary Jones
Birth Date: 20 Aug 1909
Date of Registration: Jul 1986
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Cannock Chase
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 30
Page: 519


Birth: Baseley Alice Mary Cannock 6b 484 Dec 1909.

We're in such an agreeable mood today aren't we!!

Possibly Jane:
1881 Ancestry
Name: Jane Bembow
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Bembow
Mother's name: Jane Bembow
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 7a Lawley Str
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2875
Folio: 130
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
William Bembow 69
Jane Bembow 45
Betsy Bembow 16
Jane Bembow 9
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2875; Folio: 130; Page: 33; GSU

1891 England Census about Jane Benbow
Name: Jane Benbow
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Jane Benbow
Gender: Female
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Dudley
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2293
Folio: 120
Page Number: 54
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Benbow 54
John Benbow 37
Betsy Benbow 27
Jane Benbow 20

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2293; Folio 120; Page 54; GSU

Maureen

Looks promising to me, Maureen.

Going out on a limb for Mr Jones:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Isaac Jones
Name: Isaac Jones
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1904
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1972
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Cannock
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 200

Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
JONES Isaac Lichfield 6b 530


1911 census transcription details for: 70 Brindley Heath Hford
RG14PN16899 RG78PN1045 RD367 SD2 ED9 SN182


Reg. District: Lichfield Sub District: Rugeley
Parish: Brereton Enum. District: 9
Address: 70 Brindley Heath Hford
County: Staffordshire


JONES, David Head Married
17 years M 44 1867 Coal Miner Engineroad Man Bilston Staff
JONES, Jane Wife Married F 40 1871 Dudley Glose
JONES, John Son Single M 20 1891 Coal Miner Hewer Brige Town Staff
JONES, David Son M 13 1898 School Brindley Heath Staff
JONES, Florry Daughter F 11 1900 School Brindley Heath Staff
JONES, William Son M 9 1902 Brindley Heath Staff
JONES, Isiac Son M 7 1904 Brindley Heath Staff
JONES, Lily Daughter F 5 1906 Brindley Heath Staff
JONES, Jane Daughter F 3 1908 Brindley Heath Staff
JONES, George Son M 2 1909 Brindley Heath Staff
TIPPER, John Boarder Single M 23 1888 Coal Miner Driver Stafford Staff
WILLIAMS, George Boarder Single M 21 1890 Coal Miner Driver Derby Derbyshire




1901 census transcription details for: 62, Brindley Heath, Brereton, Brindley Heath

RG number: RG13 Piece: 2658 Folio: 116 Page: 39


Reg. District: Lichfield Sub District: Rugeley
Parish: Brereton Enum. District: 24
Ecclesiastical District: Hednesford City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 62, Brindley Heath, Brereton, Brindley Heath
County: Staffordshire


JONES, David Head Married M 33 1868 Miner Coal Hewer
Bradley
Staffordshire
JONES, Jane Wife Married F 31 1870
Dudley
Staffordshire
JONES, John H Son M 9 1892
Bridgetown
Staffordshire
JONES, Ann E Daughter F 7 1894
Dudley
Staffordshire
JONES, David Son M 3 1898
Hednesford
Staffordshire
JONES, Florence Daughter F 1 1900
Hednesford
Staffordshire
ALLEN, Charles Boarder Single M 29 1872 Miner's Labourer Underground
Dudley
Worcestershire

I'm not seeing a likely marriage for David and Jane other than the one Ginny found in Cannock,but this looks like it could be the first son:
Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
BENBOW John Henry Cannock 6b 497

Maybe it took her that long to talk him into it!

Maureen

No sign yet of any Irish roots for the Baseley family, and we're back to c1806.

With both parents in census 1841, name mistranscribed, but children Harriet, Ellen and Robert tally with census 1851):

Name: Robert Braslay
Age: 6 MO
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Paul
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1144
Book: 7
Folio: 49
Page Number: 14

Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Beasley 35 c1806 Warwickshire, England. Groom
Mary Beaslay 30
Harriet Beaslay 7
Ellen Braslay 5
Robert Braslay 6 MO

Robert Baseley Senior (c1840) in 1851:

Name: Robert Baseley
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Mary A Baseley
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Leamington Priors
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Leamington
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Warwick
Sub-registration district: Budbrooke
ED, institution, or vessel: 1p
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Piece: 2072
Folio: 582
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Baseley 39 c1812 Tynemouth, Northamptonshire, England.Head. married, Launderess.
Harriet Baseley 16
Ellen Baseley 14
Robert Baseley 10 c1841 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Jane Baseley 7

Marriage of Robert Baseley senior:

Marriages Mar 1869
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>>>Baseley Robert Stafford 6b 7
Hampton Clara Stafford 6b 7
>>>Plant Emmeline Stafford 6b 7
Thompson Henry Alfred Stafford 6b 7

Susan

'The story is that there are irish roots and that he was under protection and had to leave ireland this is Robert Baseley'



This may have been years ago but you need to think, this is an open board and people anywhere in the world can see this info just by searching a name

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