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My Son in Law said its impossible.

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susan

susan Report 1 Aug 2011 20:08

it is alice mary baseley and isaac jones my son in laws grand parents on his mothers side.
I will try to find out more and get back tomorrow
THANK YOU ALL <3

Dea

Dea Report 1 Aug 2011 20:04

Susan,

If you stand back and have a think about it, you could give us an awful lot more information....

You don't have to give personal details of 'living people' but you keep saying that you have no dates??

You could at least say if your son-in-law was born c 1980 or c 1940 ??

Possible area??

His father Ken Wilkes would have been born e.g. c 1970 or c 1890 ??? etc !

Do you know Ken's wife's name? - You seem to know that her sister was a 'Shirley Marsh' - so does this mean that his mother's name was Marsh, or had Shirley married etc......

Please sit down and write out what you have and let us know the details - you have more info than you think.

Dea x

susan

susan Report 1 Aug 2011 19:58

I will try to talk more to my in laws and son in law and get back to you all I do not want to be beaten and also to give my grand children a full tree as much as possible .. so I will get back as asp to you all and THANK YOU ALL YOU STARS AND YOU HAVE BIG HEARTS AND KINDNESS TO US SEEKERS, LOVE YOU ALL X <3
SUSAN X

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Aug 2011 19:46

No Wilkes-Baseley marriage, but a Kenneth F Wilkes married a Judith M Jones in 1959 in Cannock, does this sound right to you?

NB this bride ties in with the birth of a Jones daughter MMN Baseley in 1941, same middle initial as the bride.

Can you please confirm whether the Isaac that Alice Mary married was a
Baseley or a Jones. it looks to me like Mary Alice was the Baseley, and Isaac the Jones. Thanks. :-)

susan

susan Report 1 Aug 2011 19:38

Hi Everyone I have very little information and she doesn't have a birth cert.
I was told just now. my son in law's name is wilkes and his father is ken.
his brother is Robert married to Reta no dates
His mothers sister is Shirley marsh artist and husband clifford.
The story is that there are irish roots and that he was under protection and had to leave ireland this is Robert Baseley ?
sorry I do not have any other facts and information, you are all so kind and supportive to us seekers I really value you all
THANK YOU EVERYONE
<3 :-D

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Aug 2011 19:36

Possible for Ruth?

POTTS, John Head Married M 28 1863 Coal Miner Sedgeley Staffordshire
POTTS, Martha Wife Married F 29 1862 Tipton Staffordshire
POTTS, Hannah Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Tipton Staffordshire
POTTS, Thomas Son M 5 1886 Scholar Cannock Staffordshire Chase
>>>POTTS, Ruth Daughter F 3 1888 Cannock Staffordshire Chase
POTTS, Clara Daughter F 1 1890 Wath upon Dearne Staffordshire

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3854 Folio:
59 Page:
61

Registration District:
Rotherham Sub District:
Wath Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Wath on Dearne All Saints

Civil Parish:
Wath on Dearne Municipal Borough:
Address:
Court 2 No 5, Doncaster Road, Wath On Dearne County:
Yorkshire (West Riding)

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Aug 2011 19:31

No sign of an Irish connection for Robert Baseley or his parents:


BASELEY, Robert Head Married M 41 1840 Railway Shunter
Birmingham Warwickshire
BASELEY, Emmeline Wife Married F 30 1851
Stafford
BASELEY, Thomas Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar Birmingham Warwickshire
BASELEY, Harriet Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Stafford
BASELEY, Mary Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Cannock
Staffordshire
>>>BASELEY, Robert Daughter Son Single M 0 1881 Cannock Staffordshire

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
2784 Folio:
35 Page:
21

Registration District:
Cannock Sub District:
Cannock Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Cannock Municipal Borough:
Address:
Huntington Ter Road, Cannock County:
Staffordshire

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Aug 2011 19:22


Marriages Dec 1908
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>>>BASELEY Robert Cannock 6b 878
HAMMONDS Mary Ann Cannock 6b 878
MEARS Richard Cannock 6b 878
>>>POTTS Ruth Cannock 6b 878

Dea

Dea Report 1 Aug 2011 18:15

Come on Susan,

We have to prove your son-in-law wrong !!

Nothing is 'impossible' here until we have exhausted it !:-D

Dea x

Gee

Gee Report 1 Aug 2011 17:59

1881 England Census
about James T. Baseley
Name: James T. Baseley
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriett H. Baseley
Gender: Male
Where born: Hayford Nether, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Litchborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Sub Postmaster & Mkt Carrier

Registration district: Towcester
Sub-registration district: Abthorpe
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1534
Folio: 46
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
James T. Baseley 39
Harriett H. Baseley 37
Bedford Baseley 5
Frank Baseley 3


Marriages Jun 1865
Baseley James Tarry Towcester 3b 35

Maddie

Maddie Report 1 Aug 2011 17:35

Marraige for isaac and ann
Isaac Bedford

England Marriages, 1538–1973


marriage: 13 Jul 1832 —Litchborough, Northampton, England
spouse: Ann Darby

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Isaac Bedford
bride's name: Ann Darby
marriage date: 13 Jul 1832
marriage place: Litchborough, Northampton, England
indexing project (batch) number: I05022-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1999881

Dea

Dea Report 1 Aug 2011 17:30

Well, I think we have all found lots of useful facts but we really need Susan to come back and put those names she has given us into some sort of context so that we can fit everything together.

Dea x

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 1 Aug 2011 17:24

LOL! Who knows? My radar went a little haywire on this one too!

Maureen

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Aug 2011 17:16

Thanks Maureen - wondered if I was thinking too laterally! :-)

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 1 Aug 2011 17:12

I'm with Kucinta on this one!

Maureen

Gee

Gee Report 1 Aug 2011 17:08

1871 England Census
about Isaac B Baseley
Name: Isaac B Baseley
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Father's name: James Baseley
Mother's name: Harriet R Baseley
Gender: Male
Where born: Stow Hill, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Litchborough
Town: Litchborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Towcester
Sub-registration district: Abthorpe
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 115
Piece: 1470
Folio: 69
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
James Baseley 29
Harriet R Baseley 27
John J Baseley 5
Isaac B Baseley 3
Ann E Baseley 6 Months


Maddie

Maddie Report 1 Aug 2011 17:06

1871 for gparents
BEDFORD, Isaac Head M 60 1811 Northamptonshire VIEW
BEDFORD, Ann Wife F 59 1812 Northamptonshire VIEW
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
1470 Folio:
69 Page:
21

Registration District:
Towcester Sub District:
Abthorpe Enumeration District:
6 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Litchborough Municipal Borough:
Address:
Litchborough County:
Northamptonshire

1861
BEDFORD, Isaac Head Married M 50 1811 Coal Merchant
Litchborough
Northamptonshire VIEW
BEDFORD, Ann Wife Married F 49 1812
Litchborough
Northamptonshire VIEW
BEDFORD, Harriett Daughter Unmarried F 17 1844 Dressmaker
Litchborough
Northamptonshire VIEW
BEDFORD, Sarah Mother Widow F 76 1785
Stow VIEW
RG number:
RG09 Piece:
924 Folio:
66 Page:
19

Registration District:
Towcester Sub District:
1 Abthorpe Enumeration District:
6 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Peterborough

Civil Parish:
Litchborough Municipal Borough:
Address:
Litchborough, Litchborough County:
Northamptonshire

1851
BEDFORD, Isaac Head Married M 40 1811 Coal Dealer
Litchbro
Northamptonshire VIEW
BEDFORD, Ann Wife Married F 39 1812 Lace Maker
Inwick
Bedfordshire VIEW
BEDFORD, Harriett Daughter Unmarried F 7 1844 Scholar
Litchbro
Northamptonshire VIEW
BEDFORD, Sarah Widow F 65 1786 Seamstress
Stowe
Northamptonshire VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1736 Folio:
209 Page:
19

Registration District:
Towcester Sub District:
Abthorpe Enumeration District:
13 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Daventry

Civil Parish:
Litchborough Municipal Borough:
Address:
Rectory House, Litchborough County:
Northamptonshire

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Aug 2011 17:06

Wondering about this marriage?

Marriages Sep 1929
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>>>Baseley Alice M Jones Cannock 6b 1260
>>>Jones Isaac Baseley Cannock 6b 1260

1911 has Robert, Ruth and Alice Mary Baseley. was Isaac a Jones, rather than a Baseley??

Admittedly Robert & Ruth do not come from Ireland according to this census:

1911:

>>BASELEY, Irobert Head Married M 30 1881 Coal Miner Hewer Bcannock Staffs
>>BASELEY, Ruth Wife Married 2 years F 23 1888 Hednesford Staffs
>>BASELEY, Alice Mary Daughter F 1 1910 Hednesford Staffs
BASELEY, Thomas Son M 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Cannock Staffs

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16942 Reference:
RG14PN16942 RG78PN1047 RD368 SD2 ED9 SN154

Registration District:
Cannock Sub District:
Cannock Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Cannock

Address:
High Croft Terrace West Chadsmoor County:
Staffordshire

Dea

Dea Report 1 Aug 2011 16:57

This will be relevant somewhere:


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Marriages Jun 1865 (>99%)
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Bedford Harriet Rosamond Towcester 3b 33 ******
Lee Mary Towcester 3b 33
Lee May Towcester 3b 33
Messinger Thomas Towcester 3b 33
Wakelen Edwin Towcester 3b 33
Wakelin Edwi Towcester 3b 33

Maybe a 2nd marriage to Baseley ??

I will go and look.

Dea x

Joy

Joy Report 1 Aug 2011 16:54

Does he have his mother's birth certificate? so that you can start tracing back from there, please.