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HI i have Giovanni birth certificate born 2 january 1895 mother Rose Hern and yes they did not marry till 1912 dont know why I would like to say a big thank you to every body pauline

Looks like the one in South Shields is not him,

I think we need more info to be able to pin him down

Roy

This could be the one who married Johnson

Name: Joseph Fascione
Birth Date: abt 1911
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1967
Age at Death: 56
Registration district: South Shields
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 893

1911 census - household transcription
Person: FASCIONE, Joseph
Address: 4 Orange Row Leeds


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FASCIONE, Angelantonia Head Married M 41 1870 Ice Cream Dealer Italy Resident VIEW
FASCIONE, Rosie Wife Married
17 years F 33 1878 York Yorkshire VIEW
FASCIONE, Lizzie Daughter F 14 1897 Boot Factory Machinist General Leeds Yorkshire VIEW
FASCIONE, Joseph Son M 16 1895 Carpenter Joiner Leeds Yorks VIEW
FASCIONE, Mary Daughter F 12 1899 School Leeds Yorks VIEW
FASCIONE, Anthony Son M 8 1903 School Leeds Yorks VIEW
FASCIONE, Rosie Daughter F 10 1901 School Leeds Yorks VIEW
FASCIONE, William Son M 1 1910 Leeds Yorks VIEW
FASCIONE, Henry Son M 2 1909 Leeds Yorks VIEW
FASCIONE, Eliza Daughter F 6 1905 School Leeds Yorks VIEW
HANLEY, Arthur ] Boarder M 24 1887 Painter House's Halifax Yorks VIEW

Pauline, something not right here? you said that you gave the tree info to Martino on ancestry but according to that tree his details are

Giovanni Joseph Fascione
Birth: 1895 - York, Yorkshire, England
Parents: Angelo A Fascione, Rose Frances Hearn Hern

BUT according to the GRO index Angelo Fascione,and Rose Frances Hearn Hern Did not get married untill 1912 so was he born out of wedlock?


Maud Burrow Cockayne Apr-May-Jun 1912 Leeds Yorkshire - West Riding

John Cockayne Burrow Apr-May-Jun 1912 Leeds Yorkshire - West Riding

>>>>>Angelo Fascione Hern Apr-May-Jun 1912 Leeds Yorkshire - West Riding

>>>>>Rose F Hern Fascione Apr-May-Jun 1912 Leeds Yorkshire - West Riding


Did he get married and who to

this looks like the one born 1898 Ormskirk married to a De Nallo

Joseph Fascione De Nallo Apr-May-Jun 1921 Ormskirk Lancashire

so is this your man married to a Lily Johnson in South Shields durham

Joseph Fascione Johnson Jul-Aug-Sep 1932 South Shields Durham
because it looks like their last child was born in 1953

Roy

The one born in 1898 matches that death in 1983...so I personally do not think it is your Joe

Could he have left the country?

jax

on the birth index he was born 1895 but as i said his death cert may have his birth year wrong as the info on death certs all depend on who registered the death and how well they new the deceased so i always keep an open mind with death info, the only way to find if the
Joseph Fascione death registered in Sefton 1983 is correct is to buy the cert

My only concern is that their was a Joseph Fascione born in Lancashire in 1898 and i cannot find a death for him

Roy

I have tried looking Pauline but can't seen to find anything, I wonder if what says maybe what happened in this case with your relie that maybe birth year is wrong??

Yes Porkie pie i gave infor to Martino tree

Last seen in Leeds 1954 when grandfather died

Sorry no

He is in a tree on ancestry tree owner is Martino/Foster familytree

Giovanni Joseph Fascione
Birth: 1895 - York, Yorkshire, England
Parents: Angelo A Fascione, Rose Frances Hearn Hern

Roy

have you a rough idea as to when he died?

Yes that s him Nicola and Porkie Pie

is this his birth?
Name: Giovanni Antonio Fascione
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1895
Registration district: York
Inferred County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 490

info on death certs are often wrong eg middle names and date of birth,
it all depends on who the informant was and how well they new the deceased

often when the year of death is wrong you find that the day and month of birth is correct as most people can remember a birthday but get confused about the year


Roy

at least that one i found ties in with the death

for reference is this him

Births Mar 1895 (>99%)
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Fascione Giovanni Antonio York 9d 40

Hi he was born in York 1895 change it to Joseph on the 1911 census
thank you every body for trying just dont know where to go to find is death

oooops sorry my misake sorry thanks for pointing that out mike lol ignore my previous comment

thats the only one there is pauline, the birth that I have found matches what you have said about the name changes, is it possible that there is a mistake unless of course you have the birth certificate for your uncle?

I thought he was born Giovanni Fascione ?




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Births Mar 1895
Fascione Giovanni Antonio - York 9d 40