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yes its hard because dothery(great nan) christina and ruby are write but the ages for william allen and emma are wrong as william was29 or 24 when he married in 1910 and emma was 22 in 1910 so they would of been 23 and 25 or 30 in 1911 do it has 2 be wrong i no they put 4years married but i understand that as 2 children were born aout of wedlock so they could off lied about how long they were married but the ages r wrong

Rebecca, on the 1911 census you posted on 11 August, the William on there was born 1873.

Are you now saying that it's the wrong census?

emma moss was born 1888 as she was 22 when they married the married 1910 i dont know y on the cenus says they were married 4 years and william was born either 1886 or 1881 as the his age is either 24 or 29 on the marriage cert its not very clear

no that not him the age he got married to emma was either 24 or 29 cant really make out it look like a 4 but could be a 9

the wittness were harriett hanselmann and sidney something cant really read it the writing curly its something like that

can i get a copy of that baptism ? and the reason for canada is my nan was told by her mother that emma came from canada of her dad did ..

Might this be William with his first wife in 1901?

ALLEN, William Head Married M 29 1872 Handyman Tottenham Middlesex
ALLEN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 32 1869 Not Known

Registration District: Edmonton
Sub District: Edmonton
Enumeration District: 12
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mary
Civil Parish: Edmonton

Address: Eagle House, Edmonton County: Middlesex

Rebecca, who were the witnesses to the marriage?

Possible baptism for Emma Louisa:


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Emma Louisa Moss
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1889
Baptism Date: 8 Sep 1889
Father's name: Thomas Moss < Labourer
Mother's name: Mary Moss
Parish or Poor Law Union: Wembley
Borough: Brent

No actual birth date given. Not impossible for baptism to be quite some time after birth.

The 1911 census that you posted stated that Emma came from Willesden.

Why Canada?

Birth certificate for further information?

? Births Dec 1888
MOSS Emma Louisa Hendon 3a 165

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1891 England Census
Emma L Moss
Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Visitor Gender: Female
Where born: Willesden, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Harrow Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Wembley County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Hendon Sub-registration district: Harrow
ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Piece: 1040 Folio: 18 Page Number: 32

James Beer 66
Emma Beer 38
Emma L Moss 2
Frederick Pullen 20

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1040; Folio 18; Page 32; GSU roll: 6096150.

i need help i have the married cert for willam james allen and emma louisa moss, their fathers where john allen and thomas moss they were both dead when they where married it is believed that emma moss may have came from canada or her parent how will i find this out ? can anyone help me with any cenus form or deaths please i know both fathers were dead by 1910 and that william allen was a widower when he married emma. John allen was a general latouses or somthing its hard 2 read what excutaly. Thomas moss was also dead by 1910 he was a groom (domestic) i would like to find out who they were married to and if any of them came from canada please help me if possible

emma louisa moss

my nan babrba knew her nan emma but they called her jessie and on babrba mum dothery birth cert it has her mums name as moss

Rebecca, could you please explain what proof you have that Emma's maiden name was Moss.

yeah her emma madian name was moss and ive order the marriage cert just waiting for it to arrive but from my knowlegde that a chance that william wont have his father name on his marraige cert but that 100%

Hello Rebecca, how do you know for definite that Emma's surname was Moss?

I know you want to trace William's parents, but it's really important to have all the facts correct for each generation before moving back over.

im noy sure when they married if it was 1910 or not all i no is that william was my great grandfather and his wife was emma moss

In the 1911 posted they have been married 4 years, but you have said the 1910 marriage was correct.

i figrued out how to da and got the cerficates

ALLEN, William Head Married M 38 1873 Carpenter Tottenham Midsx VIEW
ALLEN, Emma Wife Married
4 years F 26 1885 Willesden Midsx VIEW
ALLEN, Dorothy Daughter Daughter F 3 1908 Edmonton Midsx VIEW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
ALLEN, Christina Daughter Daughter F 2 1909 Acton Midsx VIEW
ALLEN, Ruby Daughter Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Kingland Midsx VIEW